Posted on 06/17/2012 3:06:18 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
"This is how great republics die"
-- George Washington"Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths?"
The Constitution of the United States, which all officers of government, in every branch, must swear to support, is crystal clear that Congress has the exclusive constitutional grant of power to establish immigration and naturalization standards.
"The Congress shall have Power...To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization..." Article 1, Section 8:
Also, the Constitution absolutely requires that the United States protect each of the States from Invasion.
"The United States...shall protect each of them [the States] against Invasion..." Article 4, Section 4:
Barack Obama's actions this week in, by executive decree, granting certain classes of illegal invaders of our country a de facto amnesty are an obvious usurpation of that exclusive congressional power, AND they are a gross dereliction of one of the primary imperative duties of the Commander-in-Chief.
If a president were acting to check a lawless law passed by a lawless Congress; in other words, if he was standing firmly against a Congress or Court that had clearly breached their own constitutional limits; I would support actions by the chief executive to stop them. His oath would require that he do so.
But that is obviously not the case here.
I applaud the actions of my congressman, Steve King, in launching a court challenge to this illegitimate Obama policy. The third branch of government, the judiciary, should immediately join with the legislative branch to check the executive's lawlessness.
However, this is a perfect case to illustrate why Congress was also given the impeachment power. If they cared at all for their own oaths to support the Constitution; if they cared about the survival of the rule of law in this country, if they cared for our territorial integrity and sovereignty, they would immediately impeach this usurper and remove him from office at once.
To be frank though, experience tells me that they will not do so. Obama Democrats have no regard for the Constitution or their oaths, and Romney Repubublicans have no principles or spine.
This is how great republics die.
No, it wasn’t his conservatism, it was his inherent in-electability. His career spanned decades, but never outside of his district. But I’m not going to rerun the Duncan Hunter discussions. Pissant is long gone, so it’s a pointless exercise. You’re welcome to have the last word on Duncan Hunter, I won’t respond.
I notice that you never addressed my point about conservatives not able to unite and beat Romney in the 2011/12 cycle. That’s really the big issue, not whether or not 256 people vote for Goode, or 298 vote for Hoefling, or 153 vote for some other person with 0.00000000001% chance of getting a single electoral vote.
I’m going to repeat the central astounding fact of the primary campaign: as of April 10, Rick Santorum drop-out day, Romney had gotten 5 million votes, Santorum+Gingrich 6 million. It was an epic failure of conservative non-unity.
It was planned that way
Right. Conspiracy theory. Very helpful. Just what we need to help us solve our lack-of-unity problem. NOT!
Did or did not each know they were splitting the conservative vote?
Occam’s razor.
We’ve reached a point in this discussion where we’re each posting things we’ve already said. Now we’re just going round and round with nothing new being added.
I’m just going to repeat again what I think many conservatives are missing: there was a lack of unity on our part, and it was that lack of unity that opened the door to Romney. That lack of unity is what must be addressed.
How do we address that?
I don’t know the answer, but I do believe that is the question.
As to the fringies, I don’t think any of them are going to have any impact this November.
How to avoid it? Run our own candidate
Otherwise it will always be 6 or 7 “willing” conservatives ready to nitpick each other to death.
Or one can assume that’s simply accidental election after election.
Probably would require a conservative party, though, so anone left standing will always still be conservative.
Might as well get started with that process now, though.
I know 2 things about my question:
1. I don’t know the answer
2. You don’t know the answer
You seem like a nice enough individual but honestly, I don’t see this discussion going anywhere. Don’t take it personally if I stop responding to you.
I really want to spend my time now talking to people who understand the dangers of Obama, and what we can do to prevent an Obama 2.0 disaster.
I actually regret posting to this thread and I’m going to avoid such subjects in the future.
There’s only one subject in my mind right now, and that’s defeating Obama.
Have a nice day. Really. I mean that.
That’s OK Sam. You, too, have been a polite and considerate poster. While I don’t think this matter is settled for the country, I do agree that conversations sometimes reach a point of repetitiveness.
Thanks for your insights. Hope to win you to our cause some day. :-)
It was good talking to you. Have a pleasant summer with your family.
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