Posted on 06/17/2012 3:06:18 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
"This is how great republics die"
-- George Washington"Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths?"
The Constitution of the United States, which all officers of government, in every branch, must swear to support, is crystal clear that Congress has the exclusive constitutional grant of power to establish immigration and naturalization standards.
"The Congress shall have Power...To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization..." Article 1, Section 8:
Also, the Constitution absolutely requires that the United States protect each of the States from Invasion.
"The United States...shall protect each of them [the States] against Invasion..." Article 4, Section 4:
Barack Obama's actions this week in, by executive decree, granting certain classes of illegal invaders of our country a de facto amnesty are an obvious usurpation of that exclusive congressional power, AND they are a gross dereliction of one of the primary imperative duties of the Commander-in-Chief.
If a president were acting to check a lawless law passed by a lawless Congress; in other words, if he was standing firmly against a Congress or Court that had clearly breached their own constitutional limits; I would support actions by the chief executive to stop them. His oath would require that he do so.
But that is obviously not the case here.
I applaud the actions of my congressman, Steve King, in launching a court challenge to this illegitimate Obama policy. The third branch of government, the judiciary, should immediately join with the legislative branch to check the executive's lawlessness.
However, this is a perfect case to illustrate why Congress was also given the impeachment power. If they cared at all for their own oaths to support the Constitution; if they cared about the survival of the rule of law in this country, if they cared for our territorial integrity and sovereignty, they would immediately impeach this usurper and remove him from office at once.
To be frank though, experience tells me that they will not do so. Obama Democrats have no regard for the Constitution or their oaths, and Romney Repubublicans have no principles or spine.
This is how great republics die.
You've never answered it, under your rules, you deserve no answers from me right? Those that have tried did not do a very good job, just repeating the old fatuous nonsense that Romney is just as bad.
Sooooo, let's speak of the current outrage du jour.....you obviously think Romney would have an AG just like Holder (a race baiting corrupt lawless liar, just would work slower) and that he would have done the project called Fast and Furious, but just slower.....
"The Dwarves is for the Dwarves"
I do not intend to vote for either Obama or Romney. I will instead vote for the conservative candidate, the Constitution Party candidate, Virgil Goode.So even among the minority of conservatives who reject the principle of ABO, there is no agreement on a candidate.
The <1%'ers are going to divide their vote in half!
On April 10, 2012, when Rick Santorum ended his campaign, a total of 5 million votes had been cast for Romney. At the same time, a total of 6 million votes had been cast for Santorum+Gingrich.
Conservatives couldn't unite to keep the RINO off the Republican ticket.
Now, the few remaining conservatives who reject the concept of ABO can't unite behind a single fringe candidate.
There's a pattern here.
More crap.
Lake. I am truly sorry as to what you’ve become. You have my pity.
Actually Norm, that's a question I've asked you to answer for a long time, and I did ask it first.Could you repeat the question? I don't feel like reading back through the thread. Thanks.
I'll give you a hint, "The Dwarves is for the Dwarves" is from a CS Lewis book, not Tolkien.
I'm certain you've sent those same sentiments to the other really horrid candidates you've supported in the past as well. Palin, Cain, Newt, and even some others you may have not supported like Santorum, Perry, and those terrible horrid talk show hosts like Levin and Rush.
Wake up Norm, all our candidates lost, and the alternative to Mitt is simply irrational for any conservative.
the most recent form of the question was on this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2896373/posts?page=92#92
It’s a good question and I’m not surprised you didn’t get an answer. If I personally chose to reject the ABO principle, I probably wouldn’t answer it either.
Without defending Romney (and I’ve never defended Romney on FR or anywhere else), I’d like to say this about the re-election of Barack Obama as President of the United States:
Five reasons we must vote Obama out of office:
1. In his 2nd term the gloves will come off and Obama will truly become Obamugabe
2. In his 2nd term, given the opportunity, Obamugabe will appoint Eric Holder to the Supreme Court
3. In his 2nd term Obamugabe will accelerate his tear-down of the American defense establishment and effectively remove America from the world stage (a promise he’s already basically made to the Russians)
4. Obamugabe will sign a deal with the Arabs to sell Israel down the river
5. In his 2nd term, Obamugabe will take the gloves off on Global Warming and basically shut down what’s left of the US economy in order to make the very worst of the EnviroNazis happy.
The problem is, and all the conservative candidates we liked have realized this as well, we have a serious evil in the current administration that is beyond anything we've seen in this country. His record is clear, if he wins again, he'll go full blown Hugo Chavez on us. It's likely to be close, and like Mark Levin said way before Romney won, "I'll vote for an orange juice can to defeat Bambi".
Sorry, I can hardly repeat the guys real name, Bambi will have to do.
Who is the other conservative candidate?
The parties I know of with ballot access are: Rep, Dem, Libertarian, Constitution, Green,....
Is there another significant conservative party that I’m missing?
No matter how starstruck you are by people with talk shows, it’s always a ‘bad’ thing when a former conservative adopts the same philosophy that brought liberals to power to begin with. Sorry you don’t agree. Doesn’t make it any less true just because you don’t though.
ANY conservative that abandons his conservative beliefs to support a liberal, also abandons their credibility. Rush, Levin, Palin, You or me. An ugly truth, but one supported by fact, logic and reason. When you can factually, logically or using reason show the class how a conservative can vote lib and claim to retain his conservative values by doing so, please, by all means, enlighten us.
But if you are going to continue full lib and argue that putting a lib in power is the conservative thing to do, which is exactly what your posts show to be the case...well...good luck with that.
What you are seemingly saying is that you (and the few proud FR purists) are the only ones who could be right, and that the very candidates you supported are now wrong and somehow tainted because they have come to a different conclusion than you have.
They are not voting "lib", they are voting to remove a deadly cancer, one that will kill everything you believe in if not taken out.
It's that simple, and logical mind games won't let you get away from that.
“They are not voting “lib”, they are voting to remove a deadly cancer, one that will kill everything you believe in if not taken out.”
They are voting for a liberal. It doesn’t matter in the end why they are doing it. People can rationalize ‘why’ they are voting for a liberal all day long. It does not change the fact that they are, in the end, pulling the lever for a person who has perhaps the MOST liberal republican record of governance ever.
That’s not a mind game. That’s fact. It’s also a fact that ABOs ‘believe’ that doing so is the right thing to do. Now how, in any accepted definition of what ‘conservatism’ is and what it stands for, can doing that EVER be a solution to any problem?
Obama schmama. When the next liberal antichrist rises from Obama’s political ashes (and lets be honest, there are thousands every bit as bad lusting for power in the Dem party) will it then be acceptable to run a liberal against them? Or God help us, another gets elected, should we run a lib against them?
WTF ever happened to standing for what you believe in? Do you think the FFathers, faced with literal death and the literal death of their families would have said...”Gee there’s this evil King wanting it his way so let’s run Bennedict Arnold against him”?
Lake, Obama is evil. He’s a tyrant. And before it’s over, yes, he’ll probably go full tilt Mao. You don’t ‘fix’ that by another only slightly less bad. You deal with the problem, not drag it out over and over and over through 20 elections.
We have a Constitution. That Constitution enumerates the process for dealing with misleaders like Zilch. That’s what our congress is for. They have the power and authority to reign his mullah loving ways. If they refuse to, then the country is already toast. How can ANYONE call it America with a tin pot tyrant at the helm, a castrated congress covering his sins and a population willing to go to a full tilt liberal and beg him for salvation?
Romney is not going to ‘save’ anything. In the past ‘weak’ alone he’s ducked Obamacare, the EO and Holder.
THAT is salvation for America? He’s not even elected yet and he’s ‘leading’ like a Democrat.
Thank you for helping me make my point.
There is no way to address this by voting for a third party "purist" that has never been vetted, and you actually know little about.
It's not "slightly less bad", it's a magnitude that is more like 10 to 1 or 20 to 1.
Remove these people, continue to work for a better conservative group in government, and pressure the RINO squish (that's what he is) to keep close enough to his rhetoric for us to survive while you work towards something better.
The alternative is like I say......unthinkable.
Tom pinged me to this thread a while back, but I’ve been VBSing and too busy to do much FReeping. Just wanted to say, I gain so much encouragement from your posts. I share your zeal, and find it beyond rational thought as to why a Christian can justify voting for MR. I’ll get back in the fray next week, but just wanted to thank you for your encouraging fight.
If we're not willing to stand up for our Constitution, then what the hell use are we? What's the point of even being an American? Tolerating and making excuses for this crap is no different than giving Old Glory the crotch salute.
I know of two candidates who are pushed here on FR as “the conservative alternative”.
Do you really only know of one?
Are you being purposely obtuse?
I don’t even know which one of the two is “yours” but without asking you that, do you really claim to be only aware of a single “conservative alternative to Romney”??????
he'll go full blown Hugo Chavez on usOr Mugabe.
Amazing post! Must be widely quoted. You completely nailed it.
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