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To: sickoflibs; AppyPappy; SECURE AMERICA; IbJensen; xzins; john mirse; Conservative Vermont Vet
What are you Sadomasochistic child molester like the pervert you are defending? I am ‘sick-of-sicko’s making idiot arguments defending perverts.

This is why it is so difficult to reason with liberals and people who think like liberals. You are reacting emotionally to this case rather than viewing it from a logical and impassioned perspective. If a parent were to abuse a two month old, there are clearly laws against that and the parents should be prosecuted. However this case sets a bad precedent in that the defendant did not actually abuse any child, but in his capacity as a pastor gave biblical counsel to parents (albeit probably bad biblical counsel) to utilize a "rod" in the correction of their children.

In essence this is historically sound biblical advice. If the parents were to "beat" a child to where it is harmed, then there are laws protecting that child which do not interfere with the right of a parent not only to use reasonable means of correction but to exercise their freedom of religion in the upbringing of their children.

In this case this pastor did not personally use a spoon or a dowel against any child. The question then becomes whether giving biblical counsel to people that confirms the Bible's clear admonition to parents to use methods of corporeal punishment to correct their children and impart wisdom is a criminal act of conspiracy when a parent takes that advice or perhaps misconstrues that advice as a mandate to beat the hell out of their two month old. In any case where such corporeal punishment causes harm to the child, the person causing such harm should be prosecuted. But there is a line between using corporeal punishment which "imparts wisdom" and that which actually causes physical harm. Whether the parents went over that line was not really addressed in this case as far as I can tell since the parents were not prosecuted. The pastor was prosecuted for conspiracy to commit whatever crime the parents might have committed.

While this pastor may be a certifiable psycho the precedent set here is dangerous.

Preach the gospel, go to jail.

Is it too far of a stretch to assume that ultimately telling a child that their homosexual tendencies are wrong and the homosexuality is an abomination before God will be considered "Child Abuse" and that preachers will be going to jail for preaching this biblical truth? I think not.

So can you tell me if your parents ever spanked you? If so, would you testify against them in a court in order to send them to prison?

44 posted on 06/01/2012 11:18:43 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Virgil Goode! Because everyone else is Bad!)
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To: P-Marlowe; AppyPappy; SECURE AMERICA; IbJensen; xzins; john mirse; Conservative Vermont Vet
RE :”This is why it is so difficult to reason with liberals and people who think like liberals. You are reacting emotionally to this case rather than viewing it from a logical and impassioned perspective. If a parent were to abuse a two month old, there are clearly laws against that and the parents should be prosecuted. However this case sets a bad precedent in that the defendant did not actually abuse any child, but in his capacity as a pastor gave biblical counsel to parents (albeit probably bad biblical counsel) to utilize a “rod” in the correction of their children.

How dense are you? You admit that these parents he advised CLEARLY broke the law, and he clearly advised them to do in the details of the crime in secret, and yet you still argue that his act in the conspiracy to commit the crimes against infants should be legal. HE DIDN'T JUST QUOTE THE BIBLE. He SPECIFICALLY told them beating two months old out of the view of witnesses so they bruise was what the Bible instructed.

If a preacher tells someone to poke out his wife's eyes as punishment IN SECRET claiming that he got it from the Bible, that does NOT make it legal for him to advise her to do so. But your idiotic argument says it is.

You really have to be sick to defend such horrific actions, if you are even serious. And you calling those who oppose them a liberal means nothing,it's just standard crackpot behavior

If a women gets an abortion doctor to kill her baby does that mean the woman is innocent because she only asked for it? STUPID!!

45 posted on 06/01/2012 11:43:16 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Do you also condone stoning children who are rebellious? See Deut. 21
46 posted on 06/01/2012 11:43:22 AM PDT by Alistair Stratford IV (Keep calm and carry on)
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