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1 posted on 05/05/2012 9:52:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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The election will be held, he may or may not win (and cheating may or may not be a deciding factor), and if he loses, he'll leave office on time.

The rest just sounds like the same thing the left was saying about Bush, and is fanciful for the same reasons. Whatever syncophants and worshipppers he may have, the vast majority of the country would never tolerate a refusal to hold an election, or the failure to abid by one. The military alone wouldn't stand for it, and that is one situation where they'd get involved.

Bottom line is that he just has to lose the election. And the real fraud problem isn't as much voter I.D., as absentee balloting. I mean, what good does it do to require I.D. if people can submit requests for absentee ballots and new addresses without providing any I.D. at all?

2 posted on 05/05/2012 9:58:40 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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You really need to get off the internet and get out in the real world. Also, avoid anyone with the name Alex Jones.


3 posted on 05/05/2012 10:01:24 PM PDT by mnehring
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“If the election does occur as planned, does Obama win it by voter fraud?”

Since the vote tabulations will be counted outside of the United States, I’d give the POS Overlord approval....


4 posted on 05/05/2012 10:03:52 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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The left said the same thing in 2004 and 2008. It wont happen.


5 posted on 05/05/2012 10:07:28 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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If he loses there will be an orderly change of power. And we get The White Horse.


6 posted on 05/05/2012 10:09:41 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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During the 2000 and 2004 campaigns, DU kept spreading rumors Bush had plans to bring back the draft. Nevermind that the only people actually proposing it were Dems.
8 posted on 05/05/2012 10:13:17 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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Obama will lose and he will move to Salt lake City and become a Mormon.


9 posted on 05/05/2012 10:13:52 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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Many question. One answer.


10 posted on 05/05/2012 10:17:36 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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If you’re at all serious, I think you need a vacation.


11 posted on 05/05/2012 10:25:12 PM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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With an evil, avowed enemy of the United States in our White House, anything is possible and a lot of nasty things are probable.

You are right to bring these things up.


14 posted on 05/05/2012 10:36:30 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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"1. Will we actually have an election? "

Yep. The political class folks will be participating without the rest of us, though.

"2. If the election does occur as planned, does Obama win it by voter fraud in the states they are contesting the photo voter ID laws?"

Candidates installed and authorized by the political/regulator class will win in all of the states.

"3. If the election doesn't occur as planned, do you think it will be because Obama performs some action (EO, state of emergency, etc) that he says will suspend/postpone the elections?"

It will occur as planned. The "emergency" will be the bond collapse and impoverishment of the bipartisan political/regulator class later on. The plantation slaves are on strike. Prosecute that.

"4. If Obama loses the election, what do you think the chances are that he won't leave the White House and contest the vote?"

Nil. He'll leave to make way for the next effeminate, communist/fascist puppet.

"5. If Obama loses the election do you think he will perform some action that suspends the transfer of power to the president-elect 'until whatever crisis/crises is over'? No. Each president will be installed controlled by the favored bipartisan regulators who depend on big government for their incomes.

"6. If Obama tries any of this to remain in office longer than he can,"

All rights reserved, including "Yeah, right!"

"...when will CWII be declared, who all will declare it, and will we have more police, military and feds with us than against us?"

The government-supported parasites will declare it, of course, but it will be no more than an effeminate riot exaggerated by propaganda witches on television. No sale, no votes, no revenues. ;-)

"7. If CWII begins, what will be the tangible goals, plans to carry out the goals, how will we organize properly to carry them out, and how do we know when all objectives are truly carried out and finished?"

Oh, great. March of the Teletubbies! How are you going to find enough pizza, beer and entertainment to keep government employees interested in posing and role playing for their "CWII?"


15 posted on 05/05/2012 10:36:49 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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He’s not THAT popular.


17 posted on 05/05/2012 10:50:21 PM PDT by gitmo
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Barry may steal the election using voter fraud.

But I don’t feel there will be a CWII. It is far easier to allow the population to cook slowly and unaware than to turn things up to a full boil where people might actually pay attention.

JMH(cynical)O


18 posted on 05/05/2012 10:51:40 PM PDT by berdie
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I’ve often thought about all the scenarios you pose. With his EOs, declaring national emergency and martial law (due to class/race war) is likely, and if we DO have an election, massive voter fraud (even worse than in ‘08) is a given.


21 posted on 05/05/2012 11:16:41 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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The election will certainly take place. And if Obama steals it conservatives will pretend it was legit in hopes that their precious little lives won’t be disrupted too badly.


23 posted on 05/05/2012 11:24:26 PM PDT by The Duke
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I work with a lot of veterans most of whom are extremely conservative (as am I).

We talk about the points you raise frequently.

Those who do not think about these things while believing themselves to be conservative, patriotic Americans and/or who mock you for expressing your concerns worry me.


24 posted on 05/05/2012 11:24:47 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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Yes have given some thought to all you have mentioned, and a few of my own. I do spend time in Prayer about the whole mess. Only He Knows the Answers, and I rest assured He has Everything under Control. Yes it could get Nasty even with Him in control.


25 posted on 05/05/2012 11:30:32 PM PDT by easternsky
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Well, you forgot to mention the SCOTUS. Probably they will buckle. But what if they don’t? This is a scenario practically guaranteed to go haywire.


28 posted on 05/06/2012 12:34:59 AM PDT by dr_lew
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Research what Gerald Celente from Trends Research and Glenn Beck have to say. Both are two of the most accurate prognosticators today. They're off on timing but that is to be expected as governments and corporations keep coming up with more ways to kick the "can" further down the road.

IMO, Obama has no boundaries except for staying under the radar for as long as possible. When he oversteps, he quickly retreats and waits for a more opportune time. He will continue to use dependence, division, stealth and trickery as primary tactics. And it's not so much Obama, but likely his cronies that are formulating the strategies.

Find a hidden corner of the world and become independent from the government, and to some extent the economy; when, not if, the SHTF...

32 posted on 05/06/2012 12:45:35 AM PDT by Errant
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I remember the same questions about Clinton.
I expect Obama to win “by hook or by crook”.
Republicans won’t investigate voter fraud or any other illegal activity by Obama.
CWII? I heard that about Clinton too.
We are on a long, heavy freight train with no brakes. Soros and the other elites are just guiding us into a ditch.
If a “crash” happens it will be by a “black swan” which is unpredictable.
Unfortunately any wet dreams about a Civil War breaking out to “re-claim liberty” are just that. Think of this; the 2nd amendment is there so that we could be armed to remove tyranny. What the people have access to is only 100 year old technology. What the military has is light years ahead. Your 30-06 is no match for even what some police departments have.

enough happy thoughts for this morning.....


37 posted on 05/06/2012 3:15:04 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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