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Worst Case Scenario: The Trayvon Martin Case
Guns and Ammo Handguns ^ | May 4, 2012 | James Tarr

Posted on 05/05/2012 1:14:35 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 05/05/2012 1:14:46 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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“If you carry a gun for self-defense, and get involved in a shooting, odds are you will be sued, either by the person you’ve shot, or their surviving family members. You should also assume that, no matter how clear cut a case of self-defense it was, that you will be put in handcuffs at the scene, arrested, and treated by the authorities like a criminal.”

Not in Texas.


2 posted on 05/05/2012 1:19:07 AM PDT by BigCinBigD
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>"it’s far better to be on trial for shooting someone than to be dead"

Judged by 12 or carried by 6.

Thank you skiddles!

3 posted on 05/05/2012 1:27:10 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: BigCinBigD

Amen to that. Some parts of the country you just don’t want to live in, any act of defense will get you jail time.


4 posted on 05/05/2012 1:45:53 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: Eye of Unk

The writer is probably from the North East, and has little knowledge of Free America.


5 posted on 05/05/2012 1:54:25 AM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dows anyone really think that he shot the kid because he just wanted to??

And so he called 9-11 to make sure they would know who did it??

And we ABSOLUTELY KNOW there was a battle.

And where did the guys who did the voice printing and saying it was Tray screaming...despite the fact that they had no comparable print of either party. Those guys should go to jail.

6 posted on 05/05/2012 2:33:12 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why didn’t Trayvon call 911?


7 posted on 05/05/2012 3:12:41 AM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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"Why didn’t Trayvon call 911?"

Good question!!!

8 posted on 05/05/2012 3:28:32 AM PDT by OldEagle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“no matter how clear cut a case of self-defense it was, that you will be put in handcuffs at the scene, arrested, and treated by the authorities like a criminal.”

I would not call Zimmerman’s case a “clear cut case of self-defense.” It’s only “clear cut” is you take his word on everything, which the criminal justice system will not do in the case where there is someone who’s dead.


9 posted on 05/05/2012 4:09:44 AM PDT by Brilliant
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Sounds like the writer of this article is a whiner. Antbody with the vestige of a brain knows that there will be serious ramifications if they have to shoot somebody. People who have served in the combat arms know this fact of life intimately.

Freedom always has a price. If you love your life and your family's lives and you are committed to defending them, don't hesitate just because the police are going to put you in handcuffs or your adversary's family might sue you.

Do your duty and don't whine.

10 posted on 05/05/2012 4:22:45 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Once done defending yourself in court (post bail costs and attorney fees), if you find yourself a free man or woman, there is a good chance you will be sued in civil court.

It is my understanding that some states provide immunity from civil lawsuits in cases involving justified self defense shootings.

11 posted on 05/05/2012 4:43:41 AM PDT by varon (The Patriots stand watch!)
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To: OldEagle

Super good question


12 posted on 05/05/2012 4:50:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Brilliant

It’s pretty hard not to take his word...he’s on the phone with 9-11, got smashed up from the fight. This is hardly someone looking to shoot someone.


13 posted on 05/05/2012 4:56:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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"anyone really think"

That was how the media and the race-hustlers originally protrayed the case. From reading comments about the shooting in many different papers and on-line forums, I'd say a great percentage of Black people and libs still believe that narrative: Zimmerman saw an innocent black kid walking through his neighborhood and simply ran up to him and shot him down in cold blood. These people don't want to believe any other narrative. Even when confronted with facts. The "black kid gets shot down in cold blood by an evil white guy" narrative fits their image of how they see the Black experience. They don't want to be bothered with truth and reality.

14 posted on 05/05/2012 5:16:33 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: BigCinBigD
Not in Texas.

Nor in Michigan.

15 posted on 05/05/2012 5:19:18 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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.....and say, "officer, I fully intend to help with your investigation and would like to talk with you, but I am really shook up at being attacked and thought I would die tonight. In fact I'm having trouble breathing. Please call an ambulance for me". ....

.and speed dial your atty to meet you there! What?! You carry a gun and DON'T have a knowledgable criminal defense atty on your speed dial?! Get with it! Take an atty to lunch and put on retainer....... Might be the best money ever spent. If you can't afford one, I foresee a lot of people illegally ( but justifiably) carrying "drop guns" in the post railroading Zimmerman fiasco.

16 posted on 05/05/2012 5:28:03 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Tagline removed at the request of someone who doesn't "get" Monty Python or Shakespeare.)
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Not in PA either. Got Castle Doctrine last year.


17 posted on 05/05/2012 5:40:41 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: BigCinBigD

Or Maryland.


18 posted on 05/05/2012 6:00:59 AM PDT by Salamander (Hey blood brother, you're one of our own. You're as sharp as a razor and as hard as a stone.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I see comments above about not in my state. Don’t think that it can’t happen. Anyone who is involved in a shooting should be prepared for anything. The first rule should be to not try to defend yourself to the responding officers. It is not their job to determine your guilt or innocence.

Just show them the victim and the gun and GET A LAWYER before saying anything. There is a druggist sitting in prison here in Oklahoma that although I believe that is guilty after seeing the evidence, made his case much harder to defend by talking to the police without a lawyer. I also believe that in his mind he thought what he did was justified.


19 posted on 05/05/2012 6:01:38 AM PDT by Okieshooter
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If he just shot some guy dead, you would not expect him to try to color his story to his favor?


20 posted on 05/05/2012 6:13:32 AM PDT by Brilliant
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