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To: Vigilanteman

“I view the “homosexuals were born that way” argument as akin to the argument that “Native Americans are predisposed to alcoholism.”
Both statements contain a kernel of truth, but both can be taken to distorted and illogical conclusions.”

Anecdotal evidence follows, which can be taken any way you wish.

This morning, as usual, I stopped in the local Dunkin’ Donuts for coffee.

In line ahead was an obviously gay male. His orientation was far MORE than just “obvious” — mannerisms, voice, hair, he even had bare feet with painted toenails in flip-flops. This guy was on fire - a real FLAMER, as they say. There is no way anyone of any sexual persuasion could overlook or mistake that.

And as obvious was his orientation, it was also clear that this guy could never have previously been a “normal, heterosexual” man who at some point freely decided he was going to stop being hetero to become who he is now.

He is what he is, from his beginning. For him to have “changed” into who he is makes as much sense as a male making a conscious decision to stop being a male and become a female. Which is to say, to believe that makes no rational sense at all.

Like John Prine’s refrain in “Dear Abby” (thanks to freedomlover who posted the “noisemaker” verse in post #20), “you are what you are, and you ain’t what you ain’t”.


34 posted on 05/03/2012 10:04:59 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide
Maybe so.

But then again, maybe he/she/it just craves the attention.

If I see a guy in a Brooks Brothers suit, I do not automatically assume he is a Dandy or has a job requiring such dress. Maybe he just likes dressing up.

By the same token, I prefer wearing a factory type work uniform whenever possible. Not because I'm a beer-swilling blue collar type. I'm actually a professional with an advanced degree. I just find such clothing most comfortable to work in.

If you could only know what other people thought about you, you'd be genuinely shocked about just how little.

36 posted on 05/03/2012 10:49:36 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Road Glide

Um,you realize that not all gays are that easy to notice and many don’t act female. Ever heard of Rob Halford of Judas Priest? He’s gay and he is the most masculine person there is.


41 posted on 05/03/2012 2:27:57 PM PDT by Rockerwolf
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To: Road Glide

ACtually, no one is born homosexual. I just posted a link to a very informative thread on FR, please read it if you’d like to be better informed.

Your example doesn’t fly. There are wackos covered with tattoos, implanted horns and the like and they weren’t born wackos who wanted to mutliate their bodies.

Homosexuals are made, not born.


46 posted on 05/03/2012 3:29:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Road Glide; Dilbert San Diego

Oops - here’s the correct link, sorry:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2730140/posts

Not born this way: The facts, plus help available
Save California ^ | Various authors


49 posted on 05/03/2012 5:40:16 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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