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100% Certainty of Total Catastrophic Failure of Entire Power Infrastructure Within 3 Years
SHTF PLAN/Nebraska Energy Observer ^ | 4/23/12 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 04/26/2012 10:36:42 AM PDT by Kartographer

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To: Wingy

believe


61 posted on 04/26/2012 7:24:19 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Wingy

power-line


62 posted on 04/26/2012 7:25:12 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Wingy

low-frequency


63 posted on 04/26/2012 7:25:51 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Wingy

EMF


64 posted on 04/26/2012 7:26:32 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Wingy

can kill you? :-)


65 posted on 04/26/2012 7:27:47 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: backwoods-engineer

You would be wrong. I am just telling you what happened to me. The power cut off an I had to around 1000 dollars to get it fixed. Who says I am bashing?


66 posted on 04/26/2012 8:26:03 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: backwoods-engineer
People don't pay for the metering infrastructure directly. So, they shouldn't have a say in how it's designed

The question that should occur then is "what is the new infrastructure being designed for"? And people should definitely have a say in that direction.

There isn't any obvious benefit to customers in the "Smart Meter" infrastructure. Utility companies are finding that these meters are very expensive to deploy. In fact the major electrical utilities in this region are asking for rate increases to cover the additional costs.

Who benefits from this?

My observation is that these programs are being heavily pushed by government regulators at the state and federal levels. These are the same people forcing utility companies to take older power generation plans offline faster than new ones can be built.

What could possibly go wrong?

67 posted on 04/26/2012 8:54:53 PM PDT by flamberge (What next?)
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To: Kartographer

Why worry about three years from now? There is only 238 days remaining on planet Earth!


68 posted on 04/26/2012 9:30:19 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Nervous Tick

So a tree limb falls on a line in Ohio and knocks out power to the whole northeast and part of Canada, but a hacker gaining access to the grid couldn’t cause much of a problem?


69 posted on 04/26/2012 10:24:04 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Nervous Tick

In a word, no.


70 posted on 04/26/2012 10:33:30 PM PDT by Wingy (Don't blame me. I voted for the chick. I hope to do so again.)
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To: Kartographer

We’ll see you in three years. I put a note in my Outlook calendar. Which I’m confident will work then, because we *will* have electricity. :-)


71 posted on 04/27/2012 5:06:39 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick

If they can hack in to steal money, what makes you so sure they can’t hack in to cause mischief?

Heck the don’t even have to hack in its’ been proven already if you have the right tree fall on the right lines in Ohio you make it go dark quick. ;-)


72 posted on 04/27/2012 8:24:53 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

The grid should be a single entity, but cooperatively owned by the electricity producers, who would pay in for their use, and pay out for delivery to their locally owned grids, but get a dividend (figured out after operating and construction costs) based on their number of co-op shares. This needs to be settled, and would spread risk and costs around, and ease the transition to things like superconducting (by definition buried) trunk lines. Thanks Kartographer.


73 posted on 04/28/2012 7:28:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: backwoods-engineer

>> “People don’t pay for the metering infrastructure directly. So, they shouldn’t have a say in how it’s designed.” <<

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Here’s the deep flaw in your reasoning:

The “smart meter” is an unauthorized real time surveillance device, sending a constant stream of site specific data.

If the meter were only capable of sending a monthly summation of my total electric usage, I would have no complaint.
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74 posted on 04/29/2012 3:41:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor
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To: Kartographer
100% Certainty of Total Catastrophic Failure of Entire Power Infrastructure Within 3 Years
1) Ill-informed balderdash; there are 3 independent, NON-interconnected 'grids' in North America to start with.

2) Over-looks man-in-loop operation (it's what keeps the system running day-to-day hour-by-hour!); islanding, selection of alternate transmission paths during thunderstorms and damage to transmission systems ... there are multiple redundancies if, and only if each system operator is capable of seeing operation in his area (unlike Ohio's First Energy where bad things that they didn't see started about an hour before on a 'non-standard' temperature day.)

75 posted on 05/08/2012 6:55:47 PM PDT by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favorite tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: _Jim

considering the record of mischief I see it to be reasonable that at some point a hacker could and most likely will cause a major outage. How bad it will be????


76 posted on 05/08/2012 7:46:45 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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