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‘It has already been done with the handguns, and it has already been done with the semiautomatic rifles & shotguns. Baroness Thatcher was no help in this regard.

Britons are largely disarmed. Self defence in UK is a guilty till proven innocent crime in UK.

The most powerful man in Britain is Mr. Anjem Choudary.

1—Shotguns are legal.

2-No self defence is not a guilty till innocent crime here, this is a myth that British freepers have had to explain and shoot down so many times I have lost count. BTW I myself am a 2008 victim of burglary and assault, which involved me using self-defence, so I have first hand knowledge.

3—Utter drivel. Mr Choudray is a nutter who makes headlines, but the idea he has any power over the British Muslim population outside his tiny following, let alone the 62 million British nation is complete nonsense.

You really have no clue about Britain, sorry. You are parroting myths you have read and heard from your side of the pond.

“2—The British public it has to be said have never been gun owners. So the idea we were disarmed en masse is a misnomer. The biggest number of guns in the UK was 1.6m in 1996 out of 60m people. As bad as the laws were, THATS why the laws passed with little public argument.”

Sorry, mate, but that’s the word of one of your own lads. As Brits, you simply have different notions of individual rights and personal defence as opposed to us ignorant Yanks. So you’re proud of that fact? Fine & sorry. Hyacinth Bucket has long since replaced Lady Britannia. Enjoy your life of the Government regulating the points on kitchen knives and mandating halal meats in all the butcher shops.

My “ignorance” will cost me but little in the general scheme of life here in the “colonies”, as yes, I rather do enjoy life on this side of the pond. Not nearly as many surveillance cameras here. “1984” was a British novel, as I recall.

BTW, just how did you exercise personal defence? Not too specific, near as I could tell. Did the Muslim sue?