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To: allmendream; betty boop; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; tpanther; Gordon Greene; Ethan Clive Osgoode; ...
If the cause of a phenomena is material - then it is predictable, replicable and understandable.

What part of evolution is replicable? Testable? What real life observations of evolution in action have been made that are not based on forensic evidence and extrapolation?

OK, predict the next step in the evolution of any man or animal of your choice?

If the cause of a phenomena is supernatural - then it is not predictable or replicable and not understandable - and thus it is of absolutely no use in terms of further knowledge discover or useful application.

Sounds like you just described evolution there.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

100 posted on 04/20/2012 1:09:37 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom; betty boop
Did you not read where I pointed out to you that ALL science is based upon extrapolation.

When Galileo dropped weights off the tower of Pisa it was not to establish that balls of equal size but different weights fall at the same rate when dropped off the tower of Pisa - but to demonstrate that they would fall at the same rate no matter where they were dropped - and not just those two specific balls - but applicable to all balls of equal sizes but different weights.

Evolution is both testable and replicable. If I subject a bacterial population derived from a single bacteria and plated on ten different plates to ten different stresses - we can find adaptive evolutionary responses from all ten plates time and time again.

Antibiotic resistance to novel antibiotics have been real life observations of evolution in action - one with dramatic consequences to human health.

Because you don't really understand evolution I will give you a pas for claiming that the cause could be considered supernatural. If you knew the first thing about science or the theory of evolution you would know that the cause of evolution is far from supernatural (as your compatriot betty-boop claims that the evolution she says she accepts has “spiritual” causation).

There are none so blind as those shown the evidence but who refuse to deal with it.

Science is of use. Creationism is useless.

Deal with it.

103 posted on 04/20/2012 1:21:51 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: metmom

I see you pinged your entire coward’s chorus!

Nice to know you don’t feel competent to discuss the issues on your own without tons of backup!

Amusing!


104 posted on 04/20/2012 1:24:50 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: metmom

[[Sounds like you just described evolution there.]]

Absolutely- when Ken Miller lamely tried to ‘explain’ that blood clotting could evolve, he HAD to resort to supernaturaql processes i norder to CREATE the environment and steps needed in order for evolution to CREATE the irreducible aspects of advanced blood clotting- He just wasn’t smart enough evidently to understand that his ‘explanation’ only further styrengthened the idea of irreducible complexity- and he apparently wasn’t smart enoguh to understand that what he just described showed the NEED for and Intelligent Designer


105 posted on 04/20/2012 1:55:37 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: metmom

“If the cause of a phenomena is material - then it is predictable, replicable and understandable.”

OK, How ‘bout we start with the formation of life on earth.


108 posted on 04/20/2012 2:38:03 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: metmom

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144 posted on 04/25/2012 8:54:12 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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