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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
if the person convicted “has had civil rights restored.”

Cite a case where it has happened, you cannot, and evidently you will not.

Both Scooter Libby and G. Gordon Liddy were convicted of *federal*, not state charges.

The Constitution strictly prohibits the Government from taking away rights, the 10th prohibits the States from doing the same.

34 posted on 04/11/2012 7:09:12 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

>Cite a case where it has happened, you cannot, and
> evidently you will not.

Waitasec, here. You did not ask me that question, I think you were asking cbvanb, and Brent Calvert 03969-030 cited you an article that showed such a case. But I was writing about something different.

> The Constitution strictly prohibits the Government from
> taking away rights, the 10th prohibits the States from
> doing the same.

Uh, no and no. Article 2 of the 14th Amendment was cited by the SCOTUS as rationale for the disenfranchisement of people “for participation in rebellion, *or other crime*”. While “disenfranchisement” is popularly thought of as applying solely to voting, legally it also means civil rights of citizens, and even non-citizens.

Likewise, Article 1 of the 14th Amendment, the “privileges or immunities clause”, is what authorizes federal intervention against states that *violate* the civil rights of the citizens of those states.

That is *if* there was a constitutional provision against denial of civil rights, except by indictment and trial, which there isn’t. States are just as capable of trying people for state offenses as is the federal government for federal offenses. And in either case, on felony conviction, citizens may be denied their civil rights.


36 posted on 04/11/2012 9:26:26 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("It is already like a government job," he said, "but with goats." -- Iranian goat smuggler)
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