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To: thouworm; Alamo-Girl; xzins; maryz; unkus; RichInOC; RoosterRedux; abclily; Lex Gabba; ...
In case there are any Freepers who think Obama is an honest — but misguided and undereducated — Christian, I can provide evidence from his own lips that he is NOT a Christian in the biblical or saved sense of the Word. [It is NOT the faux pas in the George Stephanopoulo interview, nor anyone’s judgment of his “good works” or “fruits of his faith.”]

I think he is not a Christian in any sense of the Word. [Nor does he seem to be a practicing Muslim, though he was educated in a Muslim school as a child, and is on record as describing the Muslim Call to Prayer as the most beautiful sound he has ever heard....]

Moreover, a person would have to be deranged to describe Obama as an "honest man": He lies through his teeth about anything and everything, all the time. I gather he believes the "end justifies the means" — the "end" being the total destruction and reconstruction of the United States, along "utopian" lines that are totally out of synch with the real world, not to mention the values, traditions, and institutions of the American people. So I just figure he's an atheist on a mission — straight out of Screwtape's Tempter's College....

It doesn't matter that "utopian dreams" have never worked out in practice, anytime they have been attempted.

Whatever. What is clearly evident to me is that:

(1) he has taken a wrecking ball to the American constitutional system;

(2) he has systematically looted the American people, with impunity;

(3) he has systematically undermined America's strength in the international sphere, destabilizing relations with our allies and would-be enemies alike;

(4) he has done everything in his power to shackle our system of free-market capitalism.

(5) he has trashed the U.S. dollar (no wonder gas prices are rising — gasoline is a "dollar-denominated" commodity on world markets).

(6) He has made a seemingly effective bid to place one-sixth of the American economy under direct Federal administrative control.

(7) He has made direct threats to the First Amendment and is manufacturing a pretext to go after the Second, too. (What else are we supposed to think "Operation Fast and Furious" is all about?)

(8) He is at war with the several states on a variety of issues, preeminently including healthcare and immigration/border security/national security issues.

(9) He pursues divide and conquer political strategies and tactics, sowing the seeds of class and racial warfare....

Et Cetera.

In short, I believe down to my bones that this man is effectively running a criminal enterprise out of the White House. It doesn't help him that he is very likely unqualified to hold his office in the first place, inelibigle to be president under Article II, Section 1 grounds.

I know it is considered "tiresome" to say that nowadays, the so-called official long-form birth certificate having finally been released by this White House and the authorities in Hawaii after all these many years.

Still, the problem keeps surfacing in odd ways. A couple of weeks ago, for instance, I read in the British press a description of Obama as "the first Kenyan-born American president in history." (I don't know whether the comment was intended as tongue-in-cheek humor or a statement of approval.)

I doubt Obama was born in Kenya. I also doubt that he is a "natural born citizen of the United States." On the basis of his own statements, Obama acknowledges that he is the son of a Kenyan national/British subject, a citizen of the British Commonwealth. The historical understanding of "natural-born citizen" is a person born of two parents who are American citizens, including citizen parents "naturalized" before the time of birth. [See Vattel, The Law of Nations; the Framers evidently did.]

Anyhoot, IMHO this national election this year is all about removing the criminal conspiracy from the Executive Branch/administrative departments of our federal government. To me, this is Job One. If the American people don't do this, then I truly believe that the sphere of personal liberty in America, not to mention the powers of the several states, will shrink to a nonce under the further machinations of Obama II....

Ultimately, it's all about the defense of the Constitution of the United States of America, the written rule of law transmitted from generation to generation that defends and upholds individual liberty under just and equal laws. It defines a limited government of separated yet balanced powers that is utterly prohibited from exceeding the scope of the enumerated powers that the People delegated to it. It is the firm, indispensable foundation of the American Republic — not some sort of mutating or "evolving" set of rules, as the accolytes of "living constitution theory" ever insist it is.

Do not expect to hear anything sensible or rational out of atheist ideologues of whatever description. (JMHO FWIW)

Case in point: Obama evidently believes that one can use "rhetoric" to literally transform "reality." If enough people believe a statement, it then becomes literally "true" somehow, in the objective world.

Such an expectation can only be associated with black magic, or sorcery. It involves a rejection, no only of God, but of the natural world itself — the world of "objective reality" of daily, living human experience and the testimony of history going back to the dawn of recorded time....

Thank you ever so much, thouworm, for the informative links to some of Obama's recent double-speak fulminations....

65 posted on 04/09/2012 12:46:49 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop

You are spot on in every way. What a post!

Amazing, to say the least.

Thank you.


66 posted on 04/09/2012 1:44:46 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl
Woefully tardy in replying to your fine post (somehow, I missed the ping). Cannot disagree with a word of it!

Moreover, the following observations you made cannot be emphasized often enough.

In short, I believe down to my bones that this man is effectively running a criminal enterprise out of the White House.

IMHO this national election this year is all about removing the criminal conspiracy from the Executive Branch/administrative departments of our federal government. To me, this is Job One.

Ultimately, it's all about the defense of the Constitution of the United States of America.
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America's immune system is overwhelmed by a virulent pathogen that the body politic 1) has never seen before, 2) has been late in diagnosing, 3) has underestimated in its degree of lethalness, and 4) is near paralyzed to remedy. Only by the grace and mercy of our Lord will this patient survive and begin to heal--- beginning, but by no means ending, with success at the ballot box.

Before America's immune system was set upon by the pathological Obama Adm, it had already been compromised by a spiritual disorder that prevented the body politic a healthy defense against the demonically-induced mass trance known as the Obama campaign of 2008. This disorder will not be cured by a Romney victory. A spiritual disorder requires a spiritual remedy.
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BTW, this was just plain brilliant:

Case in point: Obama evidently believes that one can use "rhetoric" to literally transform "reality." If enough people believe a statement, it then becomes literally "true" somehow, in the objective world.

Such an expectation can only be associated with black magic, or sorcery. It involves a rejection, not only of God, but of the natural world itself — the world of "objective reality" of daily, living human experience and the testimony of history going back to the dawn of recorded time....
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I would only add that not only do Obama and Oligarchy believe and expectIT (occult "thinking" rhetoric), they (more specifically, their predecessors) have deliberately and successfully used IT to undermine critical thinking in every institution in America, including the Church. Above all, the Church must be subsumed and the Christian worldview, condemned as socially aberrant and scientifically antiquated.

A god created in their own image is the only god who will satisfy, and a Jesus who can be "managed" is the only Jesus who will be tolerated. Bible-believing Christians are stubborn obstacles to their future plans --- first the antichrists mock; then they marginalize, divide or absorb; lastly, they persecute and seek to eliminate.
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Finally (and also overdue), is an acknowledgment of heartfelt appreciation for the posts between you and Alamo-Girl. I've taken to reading them periodically as a spiritual and intellectual feast. I regret that I only discovered them recently. The scripture "iron sharpeneth iron," never fails to come to mind.

Thanks again for such a thoughtful reply.

77 posted on 06/11/2012 10:50:23 AM PDT by thouworm (.)
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