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To: Irenic

It looks like you’re on to something yourself.

Please ping your list. We’re both on to something.


9 posted on 04/06/2012 2:02:32 AM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Right Of You To Be You Is At Stake....Resist Cultural Marxism!)
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To: Absolutely Nobama
Yes you are. Global warming alarmism is primarily a tool for scaring the proles into income redistribution. It helps that enough Americans are greedy and stupid enough to buy into the income redistribution, but the part about stopping scary stormy weather is newly added lie.

As is often pointed out here and elsewhere, taxing Americans through transportation and heating taxes (think $10 gas and several grand a month for heating) and giving the money to solar scam artists (who run a diesel generator out back) or totalitarian thugs in Africa who will allegedly plant trees, will not have the slightest measurable impact on the climate.

12 posted on 04/06/2012 2:35:56 AM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

I’ve got to sift through my pages of links and snippets that I have in word. I’m a slob with my computer stuff. :p

I’ll try and get some of it cleaned up and post more later. I’m glad you posted, I had all but forgotten some of this. And some of it I wasn’t aware of.

It is funny how these things seem to be a stepping stone to the next thing— somehow all connected into a grand design.

That is why I found these articles rather fascinating...

www.fpif.org/articles/the_next_marx
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This Marx will produce not a manifesto for the middle class. Rather, the new synthesis will fuse economics and environmentalism in a way that fundamentally reorients both disciplines. Marx pioneered political economy; Marx 2.0 will pioneer planetary economy. It’s not just about greening capitalism, as if enough solar cells and Prii will save the world. Our current economic system has reached its planetary limit.

The confusions of our political classification system suggest that we stand at the verge of a new era. The task is not, as The Economist, the Financial Times, Francis Fukuyama, and Newt Gingrich all believe, to save capitalism or the middle class. The stakes are much higher than that. The rising waters will overwhelm Left and Right both. The future might be “storm socialism,” as Christian Parenti argues in TomDispatch, with big government expanding to deal with big weather.

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www.tomdispatch.com/post/175494/tomgram%3A_christian_parenti%2C_big_storms_require_big_government/#more

Why Climate Change Will Make You Love Big Government
A Secret History of Free Enterprise and the Government That Made It Possible
By Christian Parenti

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But don’t expect the present “consensus” to last. Global warming and the freaky, increasingly extreme weather that will accompany it is going to change all that. After all, there is only one institution that actually has the capacity to deal with multibillion-dollar natural disasters on an increasingly routine basis. Private security firms won’t help your flooded or tornado-struck town. Private insurance companies are systematically withdrawing coverage from vulnerable coastal areas. Voluntary community groups, churches, anarchist affinity groups — each may prove helpful in limited ways, but for better or worse, only government has the capital and capacity to deal with the catastrophic implications of climate change.

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Storm Socialism

The onset of ever more extreme and repeated weather events is likely to change how we think about the role of the state.


18 posted on 04/06/2012 3:03:14 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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