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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Good points but what’s your plan if Romney loses? Hopefully, it will be to demand that Republicans finally fight.


10 posted on 03/30/2012 2:46:25 PM PDT by Ben Barrack (Let's Talk About Something Important!)
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To: Ben Barrack

That is the plan. Romney is suppose to lose. Just like McCain did. McCain, the traitor knew what his job was and that was to lose. I am sure a lot of votes got lost during the counting.


14 posted on 03/30/2012 2:53:38 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Ben Barrack

There has been a surprising amount of progress at the state level since Obama was elected.


19 posted on 03/30/2012 2:59:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Ben Barrack
First, I don't believe the reason we ended up with Romney instead of a more conservative candidate was because of the "GOP elites", etc. It was because there really weren't any truly good conservative candidates in the race. There was no Reagan to vote for, so we got stuck with Ford. Hopefully, next time around, the options for conservatives will be better.

In terms of fighting...I'll just say that you have to fight smart, not just hard. That means knowing which battles to fight, and which ones not to. Sometimes, fighting a losing battle can help strengthen your position, and sometimes, it can hurt you. I don't blame elected politicians who try to navigate that.

But, give the GOP some credit. They fought hard on ObamaCare, and fought hard enough that the Democrats decided to go with a "mandate" instead of a tax, purely for political reasons. And because of that, the whole thing may go down. They stymied a second stimulus bill, and have fought some other stuff as well.

Now, I do expect them to be more hardcore if Obama wins, because I expect Obama to push hard to the left. But your argument is a relative one. If Romney wins, for all his flaws, he still will be more conservative than Obama, and some of those hardcore fights the Republicans might fight and lose with Obama won't have to be fought at all.

Take Fast and Furious. Or the birther issue (which as a conservative, activist lawyer, I think is a terrible argument). The whole point of pushing that is to discredit his Administration and weaken it. That's why you want Republicans to dig in if he's reelected. But if we managed to vote him out, isn't that even better?

Maybe the best way to put this is that I don't think we can come back very easily from another four years of Obama's judicial and regulatory appointments, or whatever horrible legislation he mandages to push through. We're almost at the tipping point as it is.

23 posted on 03/30/2012 3:13:15 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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