Posted on 03/30/2012 2:25:10 PM PDT by Ben Barrack
Agreed and no reason why that can’t continue in 2013. Hope it does. Hope for strong majorities in national and state houses as well as US Senate.
Take as many seats as possible and just let Obama try to fulfill the promise he made to Medvedev on open mic.
Time for a fight, my friends. If Romney beats Obama, the Democrats could cough up something worse than Obama in 2016 - yes, it’s possible.
“I don’t care about his religion. I’ve just paid attention to how Romney has run and he doesn’t seem to have any workable strategy to take the white house.”
When you have no core principles it is difficult to lead. People have no confidence in Romney because they have no clue as to where he will lead them. The electorate is looking for a new direction, but Romney can’t articulate a vision that suggests he will take them in a better direction.
“If you don’t know where you are going, any road will get you there.” — Lewis Carroll
In terms of fighting...I'll just say that you have to fight smart, not just hard. That means knowing which battles to fight, and which ones not to. Sometimes, fighting a losing battle can help strengthen your position, and sometimes, it can hurt you. I don't blame elected politicians who try to navigate that.
But, give the GOP some credit. They fought hard on ObamaCare, and fought hard enough that the Democrats decided to go with a "mandate" instead of a tax, purely for political reasons. And because of that, the whole thing may go down. They stymied a second stimulus bill, and have fought some other stuff as well.
Now, I do expect them to be more hardcore if Obama wins, because I expect Obama to push hard to the left. But your argument is a relative one. If Romney wins, for all his flaws, he still will be more conservative than Obama, and some of those hardcore fights the Republicans might fight and lose with Obama won't have to be fought at all.
Take Fast and Furious. Or the birther issue (which as a conservative, activist lawyer, I think is a terrible argument). The whole point of pushing that is to discredit his Administration and weaken it. That's why you want Republicans to dig in if he's reelected. But if we managed to vote him out, isn't that even better?
Maybe the best way to put this is that I don't think we can come back very easily from another four years of Obama's judicial and regulatory appointments, or whatever horrible legislation he mandages to push through. We're almost at the tipping point as it is.
Socialists make up 40% of the GOP party. We need to kick them out
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The biggest benefit is mid-terms. The party of the sitting president loses congressional seats in the mid-terms. So if Obie is still in come 2014 the reps gain seats (hopefully conservatives), and 2016 is almost a definite rep win (and hopefully we don’t put together a third atrocious set of candidates). If we get a RINO in the white house the dems gain seats in 2014, and the RINO won’t be opposed in the primaries so we’re stuck with him or a dem in 2016, and if he wins again the dems gain MORE seats in 2018.
If your party’s presidential candidate sucks losing is actually better than winning.
I thank God every day that McCain / Palin didn’t win in 08.
Obama’s win has really helped the conservative...
Ok , It’s done nothing for the conservative movement and added a great deal of damage to the nation.
But - I remain as pure as a Hasidic Jew waiting for the anointed and true leader.
/ sarc
Also if Romney wins, that means it will be tough to remove him as the nominee in 2016......I’m hoping Scott Walker, once he easily defeats the recall bid, will be on his way to the 2016 Nomination.
Yeah re-elections are almost never opposed in the primary, especially not at the presidential election. And with a 2 term r-socialist guess who almost certainly gets the white house in 2020, yep a dem, with a strong majority in congress thanks to those mid-terms.
At least that's what I heard a lot of around here in 2008. Now, after severe damage has been done, we are supposed to endure four more years of sabotage "just to teach the country a lesson."
Sorry. We had that song and dance with the anti-McCain faction. And where has it got us.
Well said.
The re-election of Obama would not be good for anybody. Who in their right mind would think otherwise?
Ever thought that if Romney wins, the economy might turn around and we could get some growth going. As a small businessman who has scratched and clawed my way through the last four years, I do not have the luxury to just sitting around for another four years until the perfect candidate descends from the clouds. I will take Romney and take my chances than another four years of Obama.
Eff no it won’t be good. It will be an unimaginable
disaster.
Well, let me be the first on FR to say that Romney certainly can win. And don't bother to flood me with all the evidence that he's really a liberal -- I know all of it, I agree with it, and that's why I won't vote for him in the primary.
Nonetheless, it's silly, given such a weak and increasingly disliked president, to think that Romney couldn't hold his own in the election. I think a lot of you are just trying to justify not voting at all..
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No, re-electing Obama is and will be the end. Conservatives will never be able to get a foothold again. It will be over or there will be a war, which I doubt. I doubt it because Obama has gotten away with ruining the country and ignoring the whimper of the right.
He knows the stomach to stop him is not there.
You just go ahead and do as you’re told and don’t worry about me.
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