Posted on 03/24/2012 3:38:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
As the investigation into the investigation of the killing of Trayvon Martin continues, new facts are beginning to surface, and the Fox affiliate in Tampa Bay found an anonymous witness who spoke to them in George Zimmermans defense, saying he saw the man who was mostly the aggressor in the struggle fall on the grass, dead.
Tampa Bays Fox 13 reported that the witness, who agreed only to be identified as John, saw the struggle and it was his testimony the police used to let Zimmerman go free (John spoke to Fox 13′s Orlando Affiliate, Fox 35). His statements to the cops were instrumental because Sanford police say those screams you hear, the anchor notes, are Zimmermans and not Martins. Says John: When I got upstairs and looked down, the person that was on top beating up the other guy was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point.
The police report allegedly included notes of Zimmermans shirt being wet and grassy on the back, a sign of struggle. What it also includes, though, according to this report, is an initial assessment of the situation as manslaughter and unnecessarily killing to prevent an unlawful act, according to the first police officer on the scene.
This story is far from over as the story develops and Zimmermans side comes up to light. Given that the witness is anonymous and the only on-the-record supporters of Zimmermans are his parents, his neighbor, and his lawyer, however, a reasonable explanation for his behavior appears quite elusive. The station also compiled Zimmermans history of 911 calls, the police report from the night of Martins death, and a number of other handy documents to understand the situation.
The report via Fox 13 below:
(VIDEO AT LINK)
Now that debunked "fact" will spread far and wide.
We have people from 35 countries here. Many of them are Moslems and Buddhists, there are Hindus and Taoists, we have Protestants and Catholics, Orthodox Christians and Orthodox Jews ~ blacks, whites, East Asians, South Asians ~ latin Americans of all types.
I"m kind of drawn to this story because the neighborhood where the shooting occurred is not all that different than my own ~ except as an Haitian fellow told me recently "It's so great to live here where you don't need to lock your doors". (BTW, not my impression at all, having seen otherwise, but it's a relative value thing ~ he meant during the day when you're home).
I’m not presuming that George wad a bad guy. High-strung, but not bad.
I agree, as George was the one with the greater authority, he was under the greater obligation of explaining to Martin what he was up to. If he had done so, all would have been well.
Martin could not have known who George was and I honestly think that none of us would have done much different than Martin did, under the circumstances.
It was in the statement from NBPP, but was subsequently debunked by another poster after I cited it.
Give me coordinates with Google maps. And please don't tell you you mapped out the distance "as the crow flies". Unless this kid liked crossing major highways and swamps.
I was referring to your earlier post re Zimmerman set the whole thing in motion, and ultimately Martin is dead. Sorry if that isn’t exact. I’m paraphrasing.
All I’m asking is that you acknowledge that just because Zimmerman chose to leave his vehicle he isn;t necessarily responsible for Martin’s death. Lots of things can happen between point A and point B that change the equation.
You could always get the coordinates yourself. I’m just reporting what’s been reported here.
A url and a quote for what? I should hope you're getting demanding by now. What a difference a day makes.
Are you saying that the quotes from a neighbor who says he saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman, pummeling him, right before Trayvon was shot, are heresay/irrelevant? Really?
See the news report here, both the text and the video. Note that this story was originally published long before this became a racialist cause celebre.
This is Sanford. You don't have to go the whole way to 7/11 to get your "candy cane". There are plenty of places in between you can stop and get some.
NOW, about stores closing at 7, he could have gone BEFORE 7, been out of there, and be back home by 7:20 if he hadn't been shot.
I think it's possible he went past the orthodontist's office which is at 111 on a nearby street. Just my speculation, but George could very well have had that number in mind ~ when he gave it as his own location.
I THINK it's highly speculative that his fear of being overheard is the reason he didn't give his own address ~ I took it as simple evasion ~ suggesting purpose of evasion ~ which is....... well, he didn't want the dispatcher to know something relevant. NO IDEa what that was at the time, but one thing could be that he saw Martin earlier.
No doubt that's been checked out by somebody by now.
Thanks. That's all I needed to know. Do you think I not would have done that already?
Remember, one of the parties is dead and can't speak for himself. The witness (JOHN) DIdn't say he saw it start ~
Thanks. That's all I needed to know. Do you think I not would have done that already?
I don't know. It doesn't appear to say at Photobucket, and the pic doesn't have EXIF data, as far as I can tell.
Were you the one who started the deleted thread?
Nope. I prefer to stick to facts.
Did the deleted thread have a picture of a guy alleged to be Martin with gold teeth and with a dartboard in the background? I saw a collage on Stormfront that had such a picture. But they are just a bunch of nazis who would gladly make stuff up to support their racist agenda.
I have no illusions about the two principals: it was a wannabe cop meeting a wannabe gangsta. Am I wrong?
We've got proof as to the wannabe cop. We have no proof as to the wannabe gangsta. I would like to know more about why he was suspended from school, however.
Throughout this whole thing, I've marveled at how that original news report included eyewitness claims that Martin was atop Zimmerman, on the attack.
Many people posting, even today, are not aware of this, or have been manipulated by the MSM to think it's the other way around.
A magnificent attempt by the left. Really, one must admire the ambition of their plan. Too bad it will likely backfire.
You know, I’ve seen references to 7-Eleven in a lot of stories, but I don’t know where they came from, or whether they are true. I do not doubt that he had Skittles in his pocket when he died, and I don’t care where he got them. But the lazy news stories that repeat so many unsourced minor details, some provably false, many completely irrelevant, calls into question many of the more important details being reported.
The fact of the matter is, it makes no difference whatsoever where he got the Skittles. It is undisputed that Martin had every right to be where he was.
And so did Zimmerman. That’s what’s so tragic.
Yours is right in the middle of the news cycle BTW ~
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