Posted on 03/12/2012 11:27:17 PM PDT by blam
The list needs to include some vegetable oil, flour, baking soda, salt and an iron skillet or all that corn bread is gonna be mush!
It wont be the same without eggs but doable.
The above items wont wreck the budget.
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Apples oranges bananas and string cheese sticks. couple bags of potato chips and tortilla chips.
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That’s just stoopid.
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Clever
Chunk a chunk a junk your chunk a junk
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“I high-lighted the propane gas and the pressure cooker. I think you should get more propane gas. And, the pressure cooker will let you use less gas to accomplish the same work.”
Agree on the propane gas. I still remember exhausting half a bottle (or close to half a bottle) just boiling a few quarts of water for noodles. That was decades ago, and I still remember it like yesterday. I would say figure on one bottle per day if you do any boiling. After that experience, I added gasoline stoves to my mix (I have both). Gasoline goes much further, and is much cheaper, than propane - and will likely be easier to find.
But having said that, unless really well ventilated, I would not mess around with gasoline indoors. Propane is good, but treat it with respect. Assuming small tanks without built-in shut-offs, NEVER leave them connected to anything, as stoves will not necessarily shut off the bottle (and the seal may not be good). But I’ve also had bottles leak, so it doesn’t hurt to put the top of them next to your ear if you need to store the propane indoors. If you can keep it outdoors (and secured) than always store outdoors.
>>your silly gun will, for any practical purpose of defending the country from the Communist, be worthless <<
My silly gun will keep me and mine alive and well fed by not only defending our stores, but acquiring wild game.
It's nice that you can afford to run away from an unpleasant situation, but many of us cannot and even a few choose not to.
Last year I gave away several survival food chests to friends and relatives. I filled a small ice chest with cans of barley, rolled oats, potato flakes, rice, beans, honey, etc. All were packed for long term, 20+ year storage by www.waltonfeed.com Love those guys.
I have been thinking of creating a very small survival kit that everyone can carry easily in a wallet. I’m thinking fishhooks, monofilament line, a razor blade, snare wire, a sewing needle and thread. It will not suffice for every situation, but it’s better than nothing.
Any suggestions on other things that can easily fit into a wallet?
They would make nice gifts next year.
Build a rocket stove cheap and stop worrying so much about fuel; they burn anything:
“Build a rocket stove cheap and stop worrying so much about fuel; they burn anything:”
Yes, but gasoline stores very nicely, and packs a HUGE punch relative to having to forage for 10 lbs. of wood to equal 2 ounces of gas.
I like to think this through and have contingencies in mind.
For instances:
(1) a single burner, single-unit propane stove represents a critical single point of failure.
(2) From a meal prep standpoint, a pressure cooker is a great idea as they require less total energy ‘burned’ to cook a given amount of food - particularly important with hard grains and beans where the plant starches and proteins need to be converted to animal-edible starches/ sugars/proteins via heat and hydrolysis (aka cooking).
(3) a single cooking pot can be problematic as rice cooks a lot faster than beans and you dont want to ruin the food value. I think the minimum should be two ‘pots’ one of which is a sturdy ‘dutch oven’ or cast iron deep frying pan - with a lid.
(4) NEVER leave out the important staples to make the foods more palatable: salt, sugar, veg. oil, baking soda/powder. You only need a little to make a big difference.
ALL of the above have ‘dual use’ and none represent a ‘waste’ of money or a single-use sunk cost.
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You want variety for a number of reasons, but those with substantially more than a week or so of food might want to keep track of how many 2,000 calorie days of food they have, since that's about what an average person needs. A pound of spaghetti (1600 calories) plus one 15 ounce can of sauce is about 2,000 calories. Similarly, a pound of rice and something such as canned soup and tuna to stir into it adds up to 2,000 calories. I have lots of canned meats and fish for the complete protein (and it's the stuff we eat a couple of times a week, so we're used to it and we like it), but a little over half of our emergency food calories comes from grain. The 20 pound sack of rice I just got for $6 will, with 20 additions of 400 calories each (averaging $1 per can), provide food for one person for 20 days or for a family of four for five days. If nothing goes wrong, we'll eat that rice late next year or early the following year, and replace it with another sack of rice, but in an emergency, my family will not go hungry.
Matches - strike anywhere type with the heads dipped in wax. Add in a small square of sandpaper.
A sterilizing tablet - the ones they use for baby bottles are fine, and one of those will final clean 10 gallons of water without tasting too terrible.
A 40 denier nylon woman’s knee sock - makes a good filter and folds up really small.
Two aspirin - very effective painkillers.
An unlubricated condom - they are surprisingly good as emergency water carriers.
A strip of magnesium ribbon - for starting fires no matter how wet the wood is.
Those, plus the fishhooks, monofilament, needle and thread and a scalpel blade are what is carried in the handle of my survival knife, but could easily be fitted in a wallet.
I have a dupe set of that in a small tin (Altoids tin) which moves from coat pocket to coat pocket as the seasons change.
I have 15-20 of the 20 pound propane tanks. I also have the capability of refilling the small one pound tanks from them. I have both types of Coleman camper stoves, gasoline and propane.
“I have 15-20 of the 20 pound propane tanks. I also have the capability of refilling the small one pound tanks from them. I have both types of Coleman camper stoves, gasoline and propane.”
I have everything that you mention, but only 5 of the large propane tanks. I have failed.
Thanks! Great suggestions.
I already carry a Heart Attack First Aid Kit in my wallet. You never know when someone around you is gonna keel over.
It contains 4 adult, 325 mg, aspirins and a 100 mg. Viagra tab. The aspirin thins your blood and the Viagra opens up the blood vessels in the heart to let blood flow more freely.
Don’t laugh. Viagra was originally created as a heart med and is still used as such. The cool side effects were an unexpected bonus.
Good response. I was going to wait until this evening to respond to what looks to me to be a leftist trolling here.
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