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To: Seizethecarp

So is Rommey qualifgied to be POTUS? From what I understand he and his father were born in mexico.


14 posted on 03/11/2012 9:55:27 AM PDT by Americanexpat (Everytime I see that guy's face ot)
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To: Americanexpat
“So is Rommey qualifgied to be POTUS? From what I understand he and his father were born in mexico.”

The 9th Circuit panel pulled this utterance out of their collective posteriors, so NO this dicta does not make any foreign-born baby an NBC, including George Romney who was born in Mexico. If the Marguet-Pillado dicta were to be upheld by SCOTUS after being cited in the ballot challenges heading up to SCOTUS, then that would make both Obama and George Romney eligible...and McCain and Rubio as well.

BTW, Mitt Romney was born in the US to two US citizen parents. By returning to the US in 1907 when George was under age 18 he did not have to be naturalized to re-affirm his US citizenship gained from his own two allegedly US citizen parents.

30 posted on 03/11/2012 11:12:51 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Americanexpat
So is Rommey qualifgied to be POTUS? From what I understand he and his father were born in mexico.

His father was born in Mexico, but his parents, Mitt's paternal grandparents, were both US citizens. Thus his father was born a citizen, assuming he took the proper follow up actions required at that time. Mitt was born in the US, of parents who were citizens, even though his father was not a natural born citizen. Thus Mitt is a natural born citizen.

It can be argued, with reference to the definitions of "Vattel" in "The Law of Nature", that McCain was born when his father was serving the country, even though out of it and so was considered "born in the country", even if he was born in Pananma, which has not been proven to my satisfaction. I didn't vote for him the primary, but the facts are what they are on the issue.

§ 212. Citizens and natives.

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.


§ 217. Children born in the armies of the state.

For the same reasons also, children born out of the country, in the armies of the state, or in the house of its minister at a foreign court, are reputed born in the country; for a citizen who is absent with his family, on the service of the state, but still dependent on it, and subject to its jurisdiction, cannot be considered as having quitted its territory.

If you are going to use Vattel's definition for NBC, you really ought to use the special case qualifications too.

73 posted on 03/11/2012 11:04:50 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Americanexpat
So is Rommey qualifgied to be POTUS? From what I understand he and his father were born in mexico.

His father was born in Mexico, but his parents, Mitt's paternal grandparents, were both US citizens. Thus his father was born a citizen, assuming he took the proper follow up actions required at that time. Mitt was born in the US, of parents who were citizens, even though his father was not a natural born citizen. Thus Mitt is a natural born citizen.

It can be argued, with reference to the definitions of "Vattel" in "The Law of Nature", that McCain was born when his father was serving the country, even though out of it and so was considered "born in the country", even if he was born in Pananma, which has not been proven to my satisfaction. I didn't vote for him the primary, but the facts are what they are on the issue.

§ 212. Citizens and natives.

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.


§ 217. Children born in the armies of the state.

For the same reasons also, children born out of the country, in the armies of the state, or in the house of its minister at a foreign court, are reputed born in the country; for a citizen who is absent with his family, on the service of the state, but still dependent on it, and subject to its jurisdiction, cannot be considered as having quitted its territory.

If you are going to use Vattel's definition for NBC, you really ought to use the special case qualifications too.

74 posted on 03/11/2012 11:05:05 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Americanexpat

Mitt Romney was born in the US in Detroit on March 12, 1947. His father was born in Mexico to two American citizen parents.


93 posted on 03/12/2012 8:26:32 AM PDT by kabar
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