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To: cripplecreek
My grandmother walked away from her lifelong Methodist church when the pastor tossed the bible on the floor during a sermon while declaring it irrelevant in today’s world.

yikes... Did that really happen? I knew the UMC folks were way out there, but usually I would not have expected them to be so blatant.

If Santorum wanted to make a point, he probably should have said that what claims to be Christianity in America today is not Christian. People might like to claim the Name, but they reject that He IS Saviour (the only Saviour) AND Lord.
This disease afflicts many so-called Churches -- not just those that are grouped under the Protestant banner.

58 posted on 03/09/2012 1:39:21 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: El Cid
yikes... Did that really happen?

yeah and it was on;y one in a series of things that drove her away. It really did break her heart but fortunately a British pastor and his wife started a new church just down the road. They call themselves non denominational but have a traditional bible centric view and don't try to appease in an attempt to fill pews.

While the Methodist and Baptist churches of my hometown have shrunk the new church has grown mostly due to middle age and elderly parishioners from the other churches. Naturally there's a threat of the new church dying with its aging population but the pastor told me that he doesn't concern himself with that. He told me that he puts his faith in God and younger people are starting to show up. I'm 30 miles away and I've specifically made the trip out there a couple of times partly to make my grandmother happy and partly because I like the message.
75 posted on 03/09/2012 2:14:44 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: El Cid

“Did that really happen? I knew the UMC folks were way out there, but usually I would not have expected them to be so blatant.”

I went to a PCUSA service where the subject of the sermon was: “Jesus came to the world to bring gay marriage to the world.” Not subtle at all.


84 posted on 03/09/2012 3:00:01 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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