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To: Hostage
It was never written as a "tax". It was however written without severabilty. One part goes down, the whole thing goes down. As San Fran Nan said, we had to vote on it in order to see whats in it...Ooops. Whats in it is layer upon layer of un-Constitutional garbage, take your pick.

But I do hope "they" try and argue this thing as a tax. That will open the barn door to many, many challenges of tax law and could turn out to be the liberals worst nightmare as we start getting into our graduated tax system and equal protection.

5 posted on 03/05/2012 11:29:59 AM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: Michael Barnes

Read up on the latest court case on severability. you won’t like it but you need to understand that it is now held as severable after the fact by US Federal Courts. In other words, severability is not your life saver.

They are already arguing it as a tax; again read up on it and get current. There have been news reports that Obama lawyers are arguing it as a tax now since last summer. Also from the get go they have said they are following FDR’s playbook on Social Security, i.e. in public proclaim Social Security is a modest retirement pension plan and in court argue it is a tax. Rush also discussed this ages ago but the public still hasn’t caught on to what is going to hit them.

The public and most parts of conservative political circles have been putting their eggs in the basket of the Commerce Clause arguments and guess what? They will likely win on the Commerce Clause battlefront but they will lose on the 16th Amendment tax argument which is all that is needed to launch Obamacare for the ages.

And don’t think this hasn’t been done before, as I just explained to you, FDR’s lawyers played the same game with Social Security in the 1930s. Even Biden said in the press if they don’t win on the 16th Amendment then Social Security goes down too. Ok?

So once again I say shut up and pay your 16th Amendmnent taxes. Else the IRS will shut you up.

Tsk....and to think people like you think they have some sort of freedom........pay up and shut up!

It’s a tax stupid!

oh....and if you really do want to leave something worthwhile behind in your life, you might study this a bit:

http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_faq

The above will put an end to the insanity guaranteed but you have to want it bad, bad enough to be passionate enough to lay your life down for it.


10 posted on 03/05/2012 1:56:10 PM PST by Hostage (The revolution needs a spark. The Constitution is dead.)
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To: Michael Barnes

Michael Barnes,

It was written without a severabilty clause, yet the 11th Circuit Court severed the law anyway, ruling only the mandate unconstitutional and the rest of the law Constitutional!! Courts around the country have done this off and on over the years and it is perfectly legal.

The left has stated over and again that the individual mandate it VITAL for the law to work. But I’m skeptical of that. Personally, I don’’t think they CARE about how well it “works.” The purpose of the law is power and control, not healthcare.


12 posted on 03/05/2012 2:16:30 PM PST by Oldpuppymax
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