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To: stephenjohnbanker
Are you serious?

Yes, I'm serious. You made the comment. I asked you to back it up. If you had been able to back it up then I would have changed my mind.

"There are many direct quotes posted here in the past couple of days made by leftists in the MSM attacking conservatives."

Yes. One-time derogatory comments that were uncalled-for. Not twelve hour insult-a-thons (four days of three hour shows - and no, I don't think he spent the full time on this). And those direct quotes made by leftists weren't accompanied by hours of misleadingly telling us what the conservative said, when the conservative didn't say it, as the actual basis for defamatory comment.

I never said leftists didn't defame conservatives. I just said this was different. You said this was the same. I said name names, because it's not the same. It's never been done before by anybody on either side of the political spectrum. And people are excusing it and continuing to excuse it because it was a conservative.

You, for for example, seem to think Rush's attacks were same thing as the attacks of idiots on the left. They weren't, in scope or duration, or in the repeated false attribution of statements. So I asked you to name names.

What possible good does it do for you to mention possible lawsuits against Rush?

This is one of our magic forbidden topics? I didn't start it. I was addressing the fact it had already been mentioned on threads. You don't think Sandra Fluke and the DNS already had advisors thinking about this before Scoutmaster responded to some FR posters?

114 posted on 03/05/2012 3:56:44 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster

You do realize that ALL of Limbaugh’s comments were based on the ASSUMPTION she was providing honest testimony? That Limbaugh said, taken in context, that IF she needed $1,000/year to prevent pregnancy, THEN she was a slut?

The entire point Limbaugh was making was NOT that her MORALS were bad, but her MATH was...because it was obvious, taken in context, that Limbaugh NEVER believed she was having sex 3-8 times a day, 365 days a year!

It was an IF/THEN proposition, with the THEN being absurd enough to give the lie to the IF.


116 posted on 03/05/2012 4:03:59 PM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Scoutmaster; CodeToad

Will Sandra Fluke Sue Rush Limbaugh (Vanity)
Vanity| March 5, 2012 | Scoutmaster

If you didn’t start it, who DID?


118 posted on 03/05/2012 4:07:43 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Scoutmaster

“Yes. One-time derogatory comments that were uncalled-for. Not twelve hour insult-a-thons “
“I never said leftists didn’t defame conservatives. I just said this was different.”

Really, “different”? What are you, a 12 year old little girl? Different? Either someone slanders or defames someone or they don’t. Different? How? Because liberals are supposed to get a pass when they do it?

Bill Maher going one and one about Sarah Palin and calling her a c*** is somehow different? Wanda Sykes at the Whitehouse stating, “Rush Limbaugh, I hope the country fails, I hope his kidneys fail, how about that?”

Sounds like you hate Rush and that is all there is to your comments.


119 posted on 03/05/2012 4:14:49 PM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: Scoutmaster
Before I begin, I wanted to say I think Rush was wrong, especially to say she should sell sex tapes. In fact his apology on his website admits it was wrong. But I think the cumulative vileness of the Left over time is much worse.

Yes. One-time derogatory comments that were uncalled-for. Not twelve hour insult-a-thons (four days of three hour shows - and no, I don't think he spent the full time on this).

No two events are ever exactly the same. The Left takes turns making vile comments. Is that better?

It's never been done before by anybody on either side of the political spectrum.

Again, no two events are ever exactly the same. Are you saying that Rush's swinishness in this case is worse than anything the Left has done?

And those direct quotes made by leftists weren't accompanied by hours of misleadingly telling us what the conservative said, when the conservative didn't say it, as the actual basis for defamatory comment.

It's true that many posters made incorrect and unfair statements about Flake's testimony. But did Palin say "I can see Russia from my house?" Of course, that's not a quote using gender slurs, but I think if I had the time and energy, I could find a lot of lies of all kinds in such places as Daily KOS.

More subtly, they keep quoting parts of Rush's apology while omitting the best part:

"I acted too much like the leftists who despise me. I descended to their level, using names and exaggerations to describe Sandra Fluke. It's what we have come to know and expect of them, but it's way beneath me. And it's way beneath you. It was wrong, and that's why I've apologized, 'cause I succumbed. I descended to their level. Don't be mad at them or mad at her. Everybody here was being true to their nature except me. I'm the one who had the failing on this, and for that I genuinely apologized for using those words to describe Ms. Fluke."

I agree.

As you noted, we have posters here saying that Rush said was "factual," "appropriate," etc. That is really outrageous, and it contradicts what Rush himself said.

But I do not believe Rush's insults were worse that what the Left has been doing for so long. As evidence, I offer

Do you Remember? Playboy's Hate Rape Against Conservative Women

123 posted on 03/05/2012 5:07:55 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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