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To: chatter4
Do you really believe that the State of Hawaii would allow an 18 year old girl that is married to a foreign student to adopt a child when neither of them had any income, and weren’t even living together?

I think you have SERIOUSLY misunderstood what I am saying.

I think Barry is Stanley Ann's Child. His father might be Barack Obama Sr, but it doesn't really matter for my argument.

When Stanley Ann Married Lolo Soetoro (1965, I think) All that had to occur for Barry to be adopted by Lolo Soetoro is for Lolo to say so to a government bureaucrat who came out to the house to ask. The indications are that Barry WAS adopted by Stanley Ann's second Husband.

My argument was that he was later (1971) adopted by his Grandparents, so as to get the Soetoro Adoption set aside, and so that they could become his legal guardians. (They Kept him for 8 years, don't you think they had legal custody?)

Barry recently got that adoption or guardianship annulled so as to get a document that says what he needed it to say. The Hawaiian Department of Health, under a Judge's order, created a new document which was designed to look like the original, using a modern computer and program.

Yes, it's fake, but it's a LEGAL fake. That is my theory.

45 posted on 03/01/2012 3:24:56 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

100% with you that something had to happen in 1971.

Grandparents would not take responsibility of a child without clear and clean guardianship and citizenship status.

But Hawaii has never released anything directly. Nada.

Prior to July 2009 they issued statements that allude to ‘our records indicate...’ but they would not directly say ‘Obama was born in Hawaii’.

That changed in July 2009 when the US House of Representatives declared Hawaii to be a son of Hawaii. This was the first ever government statement to that effect. Then, LATER THAT DAY, Hawaii indicated in a apparently unsolicited statement that Obama was born in Hawaii. Choreographed? Coincidence?

The adoption process would be a legal meat grinder of actual documents. But Hawaii seems to want to keep an arms length away from this.


49 posted on 03/01/2012 4:01:45 PM PST by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

DL:”Yes, it’s fake, but it’s a LEGAL fake. That is my theory.”

Why does a legal institution need to “manufacture” a seal. Why would they not make the changes and then endorse the document properly.

Doesn’t make sense to me.


107 posted on 03/01/2012 6:30:48 PM PST by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: DiogenesLamp
It may or may not be a legal fake.

I think your analysis is good.

The problem is that Obama has presented a false story. He presented this pile of garbage as an original document. He needed to to keep looking eligible.

The postal stamp on his elective Service is a big problem. It's my understanding that you can't get a job in government without signing up.

135 posted on 03/01/2012 8:31:49 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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