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To: DiogenesLamp

Getting caught up in detail and minutiae is no doubt fascinating, I know I spent countless hours early on, perusing Justia and in fact any and all sources I could find pertaining to eligibility.

But, the fact remains that all the murk is clearly designed to conceal a problem in that regard for Obama. A negative cannot be proved, and that is what all this is an attempt to do.

Just ask the man, point blank, if he is a natural-born citizen of the United States under Article II, Section I. He’ll either perjure himself, admit ineligibility or go off on a very telling ramble. I’d bet on the very telling ramble, myself.

You’re all caught up in a very elaborate game of Where’s Waldo and I believe it’s by design to run out the clock. You’ve got numerous posters and occasional newbie signups who come teetering up in the clown car whenever the topic erupts again, who keep guiding it back to the birth certificate.

That much I have observed, since withdrawing from the matter for the most part, due to ridiculous in-fighting and silly cliques forming.

You’re playing his game to his advantage, imho. Just why he’s ineligible won’t come out until he’s finished his second term and precedent will have been set.


306 posted on 03/04/2012 10:48:41 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
You’re playing his game to his advantage, imho. Just why he’s ineligible won’t come out until he’s finished his second term and precedent will have been set.

Au contraire, mon frère! Most of my efforts have involved researching the meaning of "natural born citizen", Not the birth certificate issue. This thread is the first time i've addressed this issue in many months. The only reason I address it now is because I thought my insight as an adopted person would possibly be helpful to others who had never considered the idea.

Like I said, most of my efforts have been involving research as to the correct meaning of "natural born citizen." My understanding of it is that a person can only be a "natural citizen" if both their parents are citizens when they are born. A dual citizen cannot be a "natural citizen." They owe an unnatural allegiance to another country.

I found John Adams own personal book on English Law of the time, and it echos the Vattel definition.

I've found other stuff as well. Check out the research thread. (Link above.)

307 posted on 03/04/2012 11:36:47 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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