You wrote: “I agree. I’m thinking he was adopted in 1965 when Stanley Married Lolo.”
I wanted to point out to you that her first passport application was dated in July 1965, and that was the passport from which she had the name SOEBARKAH removed, so he must have been on her US passport by that name in July 1965.
What you need now is the date of the Soetoro/Obama marriage and the date of the passport application. But you won’t be certain of anything, because she gave TWO marriage dates, and one was several days before the divorce from the kenyan was granted.
You suggested I read Lame Cherry’s explantion of the name;
I read a it long time ago and it’s utter garbage, there was never any need to fabricate the name SOEBARKAH from scraps of any other names, there is a village of that name in Indonesia, the name Soebarkah (written as Subarkah after Suharto) comes up as one of the pall-bearers for President Suharto, he was part of KORPASSUS, Indonesian Special Forces - it’s not me that needs to read up on things, you are the one limiting the discussion and research by your
narrow point of view.
There is also a very comprehensive family website for Soebarkah on the net.
Soetoro, sometimes written as SUTORO, was never known by anything like SOEBARKAH - his names were:
Lolo Soetoro, also known as Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo[1][2] or Mangundikardjo,[3]
Sadly, although dedicated, you are not a researcher, you are trying to stuff your theories down the throats of everyone who reads here, and that means there is no progress. In your mind, there are only very limited possibilities;
AND ABOVE ALL ELSE, STANLEY ANN DUNHAM MUST REMAIN HIS MOTHER.
I got news for you.There’s a very very good argument that she wasn’t. (And I’ve got a son with a chin just like Stanley Armour Dunham, but he’s not related to him either.)
Open your mind.
Thanks. If a person wants to know the truth and is willing to give up fondly held beliefs to know the truth, they will know it. Whether temporal truth or eternal truth.
But if they do not want to know, it soon becomes clear.
Actually the removed person's name said:
Barack Hussein Obama
(Soebarkah)
I object to both characterizations. I do plenty of research, but most of what I do is on the issue of Natural born Citizen, not as much on the goings about of the Dunham Family. Check out some of my contributions to the research thread.
Secondly, I am not trying to shove anything down anyone's throat. I am pointing out an idea that makes sense to me. You are free to disagree.
In your mind, there are only very limited possibilities;
Yes. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Unless the evidence is VERY compelling, i'm not going to spend a lot of time on suppositions which deviate too widely from what most people are familiar with. The Obama File has an excellent collection of data on this subject. Any theory needs to fit data such as he has collected.
AND ABOVE ALL ELSE, STANLEY ANN DUNHAM MUST REMAIN HIS MOTHER.
If someone else is to be the mother, than existing evidence must be refuted, and unknown evidence must be presented. Currently the mountain of evidence with which I am familiar is on the side of Stanley Ann being the mother. Till I see better evidence indicating someone else, I'll have to apply Occam's razor.
I got news for you.There’s a very very good argument that she wasn’t. (And I’ve got a son with a chin just like Stanley Armour Dunham, but he’s not related to him either.)
I have no doubt that unrelated peoples can resemble. There is a Canadian Photographer that makes a point to find such people and photograph them together.
http://www.francoisbrunelle.com/index.php?id=3&lang=En
However, in Barry's case, his resemblance is to a relative from whom he is a direct descendant. Both his Aunt Virginia Goeldner and his Uncle Ralph Dunham have remarked how exactly he looks like Stanley Dunham. There is no good reason to believe it is not genetic.
Open your mind.
Show me something convincing.