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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How realistic is the claim that Texas has the legal authority to secede from the Union? Or did the Civil War decide this question once and for all?

If the forces of decadence, destroying America, are inexorable, the only alternative available to the ascendant may be to establish one sovereign nation for themselves and another for the decadent.

10 posted on 02/24/2012 4:24:42 AM PST by Savage Beast ("Improving" on truth is hubris and denial--the stuff of tragedy.)
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To: Savage Beast

It really isn’t a matter of a legal basis for secession. In essence it is what the colonies did when they declared their independence from Great Britain. I tell my students that there were two great questions about the War Between the States, one moral, and one political. In order to avoid any accusations of racism or political bias, I immediately concede that on the moral question of slavery, the South was undeniably wrong. However on the political question of whether or not they had the right to secede and their vision of government as provided by the Founders, I get my classes to rethink what they have been taught before and take another look at the problem.

What it is going to take I think is a continued “train of abuses” as Jefferson so eloquently declared. My students are always appalled when I explain to them the tax rates that caused colonial Americans to rebel. When I explain to them real reason behind the Second and Tenth Amendments. The Declaration of Independence is the political scripture that states will need to look to, not some legal decision that had nothing to do with actual issues at hand. (Texas v. White). This is just my .02. I would love to hear from really well read and articulate Freepers on this, like NathanBedford.


17 posted on 02/24/2012 8:34:49 AM PST by Crapgame (What should be taught in our schools? American Exceptionalism, not cultural Marxism...)
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To: Savage Beast

It really isn’t a matter of a legal basis for secession. In essence it is what the colonies did when they declared their independence from Great Britain. I tell my students that there were two great questions about the War Between the States, one moral, and one political. In order to avoid any accusations of racism or political bias, I immediately concede that on the moral question of slavery, the South was undeniably wrong. However on the political question of whether or not they had the right to secede and their vision of government as provided by the Founders, I get my classes to rethink what they have been taught before and take another look at the problem.

What it is going to take I think is a continued “train of abuses” as Jefferson so eloquently declared. My students are always appalled when I explain to them the tax rates that caused colonial Americans to rebel. When I explain to them real reason behind the Second and Tenth Amendments. The Declaration of Independence is the political scripture that states will need to look to, not some legal decision that had nothing to do with actual issues at hand. (Texas v. White). This is just my .02. I would love to hear from really well read and articulate Freepers on this, like NathanBedford.


18 posted on 02/24/2012 8:38:01 AM PST by Crapgame (What should be taught in our schools? American Exceptionalism, not cultural Marxism...)
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