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To: SeekAndFind
Kind of a long winded explanation of a current problem in math. It seems that you can use math to describe things that are simply not possible in this universe.

In fact, you can go through every detail of string theory, or the multiverse theory, and use it to say just about anything you might imagine one way or the other ~ without limit.

Some have put a cap of how many multiverse situations can really occur but I've seen folks use other math to simply demolish a cap.

So, what is going on? My personal theory is very simple ~ that in this universe at least you cannot predict the future. You can certainly project trends but you cannot predict!

The evidence for that arises out of the discovery that given a whole bunch of waves in the ocean there's a probability (may be vanishingly small) that a larger wave exists in their midst, and that maybe an even larger wave than that.

Before the discovery of real rogue waves the math used to describe fluid dynamics failed to predict the existence of such waves. Now that we know they exist we can actually describe them and their behavior quite well ~ even determine the probabilities of a wave of this, that orthe other size just popping up ~ but we cannot predict that with certainty.

Quantum tunneling depends on similar processes ~ some wave forms (electrons or protons perhaps) occurring in higher energy levels than we can predict with certainty, but occurring in any case.

It's like uncertainty prohibits us looking into the future.

6 posted on 02/23/2012 7:47:16 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“It seems that you can use math to describe things that are simply not possible in this universe.”

And you can use natural language to describe things that are not possible....


23 posted on 02/23/2012 8:26:14 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: muawiyah

That’s an interesting conclusion to the landscape problem — that it means we can’t predict the future.

Are you the first to connect the landscape problem with the idea of predicting the future?

Are you a mathematician or physicist? (Not that it matters, just curious.)

Anyway, interesting conclusion you’ve got there. I never thought of it that way.


45 posted on 02/24/2012 4:39:09 AM PST by samtheman
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To: muawiyah
My personal theory is very simple ~ that in this universe at least you cannot predict the future. You can certainly project trends but you cannot predict!

Well, there goes time travel. You'd always be travelling into somebody's future, no matter which way you go.

59 posted on 02/24/2012 3:24:18 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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