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1 posted on 02/21/2012 3:58:48 PM PST by jenk
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For those who haven't been around FR very long, take it from an old timer: The battle between Social Conservatives and little (l)ibertarians has been going on since this site first opened it's doors. The fights have been heated, to say the least.

That said, each side has always wanted to win their way. And, each side has always known they could not win without the other. Each of us represents about 35% of the base GOP electorate.

If either one pulls out, we all lose.

Our challenge has always been and will continue to be how to find accommodation. This time the little l's settled in on Gingrich. The Socons on Santorum. We don't like the other side's candidate.

At least THIS time we still have a choice on the eve of Super Tuesday.

That's progress folks. Celebrate that, then get back in the ring and kick each others' ass.

2 posted on 02/21/2012 4:17:44 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Conservatives need to understand that moderate Republicans do not think abortion and teaching homosexuality in schools, and passing condoms out in schools are bad things. They are actively against us on the social issues and find it embarrassing to be associated with people who think they are important.

This is a cultural thing—the establishment R’s went to the right schools and know that their friends and profs there would make fun of them if they even trod in those areas. The social pressure in the ruling class to conform in the key cultural areas is almost overwhelming. They would, quite literally, lose almost all their friends and business associates if they went off the reservation. Look what happened to the poor moderate R lady at Komen.

Culturally, conservatives and blue collar dems have a lot more in common with each other than conservatives do with the establishment R’s. Similarly, establishment R’s have much more in common with Barak Obama than they do with us.


3 posted on 02/21/2012 4:20:11 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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Oh, and the Ron Paul types are not liberals. Far from it.

Fiscally they are FAR more conservative than Republicans.

They are classic big (L)ibertarians. Some of the small l's went over, but they'll be back as soon as Paul is out.

4 posted on 02/21/2012 4:25:46 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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The Pro-Life message Santorum is delivering is very important!

It WILL NOT help him get elected President!

Get on Obama’s case and STAY THERE!


5 posted on 02/21/2012 4:26:32 PM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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I don’t remember who it was who dubbed Jennifer Rubin a “one-woman wrecking crew” but she is really living up to that appellation.

But she’s been busted, big time, with Santorum, because she’s posted many, many positive things about him, until he became a threat to her beloved BOT, Mitt Romney.

It’s a shame, because she was really one of my faves when she was at Commentary.

The Romney-bots are a sad bunch because their guy is so bad. I’m sorry Mitt, you seem to be a nice person, well-intentioned, etc. but you just are the worst politician ever.

He can’t/won’t/doesn’t give one stirring speech? His sound-bites so far have been (paraphrasing) “i like to fire people”, “i don’t care about the poor”, “the trees in Michigan are just the right height”.

As we used to say in big, bad NYC back in the bad old pre-Giuliani days (not paraphrasing) “give to me a f*cking break!”

We will see if Santorum can hang on, if Gingrich will come back, but what I’m pretty sure we’ll NEVER see is Romney breaking “out of the box” of botness.


17 posted on 02/21/2012 9:27:55 PM PST by jocon307
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,47301,00.html

So how long has it been since Christian America accepted man’s ruling that God and His laws have no place in public education. It is beyond ridiculous to me, that ‘birth control’ becomes the object of ‘faith’ when the Creator is not even allowed in our public schools.

Those Ten Commandments cover all the pegs of what it means to be ‘conservative’. It sure has never been a ‘church’ or traditions that has been the source of our blessings and our protection. It was the fact that was common acceptance that there was/is no man/woman judge had the power to out law the Creator.... Look out Rome here we come, Nero is playing the fiddle!!!

Religions have come and gone but the Creator has always been and our founding fathers knew from whence all blessings and protection originate.... Now our public education is ruled by evolutionary dogma called the scientific methodology. Anyone with a discerning eye can observed what this belief system has ushered into the fabric of our society.

There is nothing fiscally conservative about a social liberal. OR there is nothing socially conservative in being a fiscal liberal.


21 posted on 02/21/2012 11:04:50 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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