[Mariner]

"The sorry fact this is true means our society may be beyond saving (other than the return of Jesus Christ)."

Let's worry about saving the Republic first and let Society do as it will until such time as we can get to it.

You may be right. Our country may have crossed the Rubicon.

But I'm not going down without a fight.

[steve86]

Let's worry about saving the Republic first and let Society do as it will

Understand what you are saying but remember this quote:

"...Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams