[wintertime]

Personally, I am very disgusted with a **small** handful of people, our highest military leaders. Is this how they look out for the brave, honorable, and highly trained troops serving under them? Our brave and honorable troops ( and their families) deserve better. When did forgery, identity theft, lying, election fraud, and usurpation of the office of Commander in Chief become part of the military code of honor? How did ignoring this become part of defending the Constitution? Is this what they teach now at the military academies?

In your mind when should an officer refuse an order?

When should an officers say no to a person who fails e-verify, uses a fraudulent social security number, has a history of numerous social security numbers, posted blatantly forged birth documents, and refuses to document his identity with certifiable evidence?

WXRGina has a point when she says, “If more military members in Nazi Germany had resisted Hitler’s evil orders, maybe millions of people would not have been murdered.”

[WXRGina]

Good points, Wintertime.

Those were expansions of my honest points and questions to joe fonebone. I was not attacking him or being an “ignorant idiot.” I was honestly—and politely, I might add—asking, “is there ever a point at which our troops should take a stand against a lawless Commander-in-Chief?”

His hostile reaction to my legitimate question was inordinate.