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To: Mr Rogers
III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established.”

If two paragraphs is too much, here is the one sentence version:

“The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established.”

Rogers, do you not understand what it means to C&P the "entire" decision?? You stopped at Part III. All this says is that English common law was observed in the colonies to make persons natural-born subjects. Part V is where the court cites Minor v. Happersett and gives an exclusive, self-limiting definition of NBC. Notice, the court did NOT stop at part III. Thanks for proving me right yet again. You make it so easy.

69 posted on 02/05/2012 7:25:03 PM PST by edge919
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To: edge919

I have cut & pasted, and linked to, the entire decision many times.

However, this sentence:

““The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established.”

does not equal “All this says is that English common law was observed in the colonies to make persons natural-born subjects.”

Why cut and paste an entire decision when you cannot even read ONE SENTENCE?????

Let me repeat just part of the sentence, since whole sentences are beyond you: “...and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established.”

Now, what is it that continued to prevail under the Constitution? That “every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject” - but if it continued to prevail UNDER the Constitution, then it means that every child born in the US of alien parents was a natural-born citizen”.

The principle that birth in the territory gave natural born status was true of natural born subjects under the colonies, and natural born citizens under the states. That is the only way the “rule in force in all the English Colonies” could have “continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established.”

You cannot delete half the sentence to make it read as you wish. WKA made Ark a NBC, as the dissent understood, and as every citizenship decision citing it has understood. You do not have to like it, but if you continue to ignore it, you will continue to LOSE - which is all that birthers have ever done - LOSE!

Until you can show WKA doesn’t apply to Obama, every court will laugh at you - even when Obama & his lawyer refuse to show up.

But you won’t listen, so you will continue to have Obama beat you like a red-haired stepchild. Tell me, do you LIKE getting your ass whupped by Obama? Is it fun for you?

The entire decision:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZO.html

Read it, and listen to how you MIGHT be able to argue it doesn’t apply to Obama.


73 posted on 02/05/2012 7:42:36 PM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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