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WHY ARE WE STILL SUCH GULLIBLE FOOLS?
The Birther Summit ^ | 02/01/2012 | Dean Haskins

Posted on 02/01/2012 1:47:55 PM PST by Music Producer

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To: bgill

I’ve always figured if Baraq was truly ineligible, the Clinton’s renowned private detective operation would have found it.


21 posted on 02/01/2012 3:17:38 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: bushpilot1

The state owns ALL birth certificates. A brother has a direct and tangible interest, as defined by statute.


22 posted on 02/01/2012 3:18:36 PM PST by Music Producer
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

The state of Hawaii no longer releases photocopies of original birth certificates. That issue is at the heart of Sunahara v. DOH.


23 posted on 02/01/2012 3:21:12 PM PST by Music Producer
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To: Music Producer
Let's consider this statement in the article posted:
3. A certified copy of a birth certificate is legally considered an original.

Article IV of the Constitution (the Full Faith & Credit Clause) requires every state to consider documents certified as valid from every other state to be valid. In regards to birth certificates, a certified copy (with raised seal) must be viewed as equal in authority and validity as the original.

The "full faith and credit" shown to the documents provided by the officials of other states does not always apply in cases of fraud.

It's a dicey area of law, iirc. But there it is.

24 posted on 02/01/2012 3:27:40 PM PST by bvw
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To: Music Producer

This site knows about Orly. Shes the one who carried the banner from the beginning. Orly is our Joan and we will not throw her to the wolves.


25 posted on 02/01/2012 3:30:35 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1

Orly is the Vogon Poet of law.


26 posted on 02/01/2012 3:35:24 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Music Producer

The Ultra Hussein Head is the only one to spout ANYTHING about proceedings in Georgia today?!


27 posted on 02/01/2012 3:40:54 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Music Producer
Ok, thanks. I cannot imagine however that a court would accept anything but the original. So I say go for it! Ask Gov. Abercrombie to search the warehouse himself. :)

Especially because I have heard Mr. Trump commenting on his own people's investigation -- he wonders why there is no record that the mother was ever a patient at any or the hospitals named as the birth hospital.

Though I am sure that there are people claiming that records do exist, perhaps citing that White House letter to one of the hospitals .. so who do I believe. For me, it's Trump.

Thanks again.

28 posted on 02/01/2012 3:44:24 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Music Producer
For the person who typed the article posted above:

contumely n 1. Rudeness or contempt arising from arrogance; insolence. 2. An insolent or arrogant remark or act. Will you continue to allow yourself to be whipped into a mouth-breathing frenzy . . . .

29 posted on 02/01/2012 3:48:05 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: bushpilot1

“Orly is our Joan and we will not throw her to the wolves.”

Of course not.

Joan of Arc was burned, not thrown to wolves.


30 posted on 02/01/2012 3:54:15 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: El Sordo

She was thrown to the wolves before she was burned.


31 posted on 02/01/2012 3:56:46 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: El Sordo
Bow chicka wow wow...

"Let's go further -- Keep going quickly, move, down, down, down, down. Keep going, keep going, keep going. More, more, more. Yes, stop. Keep going, keep going -- higher -- no, down, down little bit. No, up, up, go up. Stop, down, down – I apologize. Up -- go down. Just one second, please. More, more, more, more, more. Stop, stop. Hokay, little bit lower, little bit lower, little bit lower. .... Go a little bit higher -- no, down. Hokay. No, no, down, down, down. No. Stop, stop, stop. Keep going, keep going. Let meee feeeenish...Now -- stop." Orly Taitz, ESQ.

"That's what she said." Michael Scott, Dunder-Mifflin

"I'll have what she's having." Meathead's Mom

32 posted on 02/01/2012 3:58:02 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Tex-Con-Man

“Orly is the Vogon Poet of law.”

Ha!


33 posted on 02/01/2012 3:58:35 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: bushpilot1

http://mikibooth.com/video-archives/miki-booth-and-dean-haskins-the-honolulu-invasion-of-september-2011/

LET US ENTERTAIN YOU: HASKINS AND BOOTH


34 posted on 02/01/2012 4:04:53 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: bushpilot1

Orly is our Boudicca and will not be thrown out with the bathwater.


35 posted on 02/01/2012 4:05:27 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Music Producer

Well, no point in arguing with you, but I think you would be better advised to pursue your own path and let others pursue theirs. The judge in the case took evidence from three different parties, and it will have done no harm to put as much on the record as possible, since Obama decided it would be inadvisable to send a lawyer to argue the case.

The opposition will make fun of “birthers” no matter what is said. The facts are irrelevant to them and their loyal sycophants. That’s why we have comedians as trusted “news” sources.


36 posted on 02/01/2012 4:15:13 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: bushpilot1

Only figuratively.


37 posted on 02/01/2012 4:29:29 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Music Producer

Music,
I quite agree that Orly’s “green light” should be taken with a grain of salt. I especially think so because as far as I can tell, Jablonski was clever enough to avoid to placing the purported Birth Cert image as an actual exhibit of evidence for the OSAH trial.

I am a bit confused though as to why you would bother working with Duncan Sunahara given what you seem to be saying here. I interpret your words to imply that whatever Hawaii says is real, is real and that no one has any recourse or means to prove otherwise.

If HDOH were to step forward in that case with a high-resolution color photocopy of an original birth certificate made with crayons and showing the attending physician to be Wyle E. Coyote, MD, my reading of what you say is that no court could force any sort of clarification, even if the Sunahara family could produce an authentic early copy from their own document vault that radically contradicts HDOH’s latest offering.

I probably misunderstand what you are saying, but in such a case, it sounds like you think that Hawaii could simply say, “We have no idea what that old-looking apparently forged document is, but we know that we have given him the correct copy accurately representing the authentic Crayon-made original that resides in our files.”

Cannot judicial fact-finding and investigative purposes trump document handling laws where fraud and other felonious deeds may come into play?

I don’t mean to say, “So, see you’re wronger than Orly!” I just mean to ask if you could clarify whether in your understanding of current Hawaii law, there is any way at all to overcome Fuddy and HDOH’s complicit participation in Obama’s fraud. Is it just that there isn’t enough evidence yet to justify a court order or a warrant for search/seizure? Or do you consider that there is no legal circumstance (short of amending Hawaii’s laws) in which the HDOH could be compelled to be held accountable for what they produce and claim as authentic?

Do know that regardless on my confusion on the above points, I do sincerely thank you for all the time and energy and money you have poured into this cause.


38 posted on 02/01/2012 4:38:29 PM PST by ecinkc (Fuddy, Fukino and Onaka: Criminal Co-conspirators in Chief?)
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To: Music Producer

The facts are these: that Barack Obama and the Democratic Party have spent a small fortune to prevent us from seeing a 10 dollar copy of his birth certificate, starting with the courtroom of R. Barclay Surrick in Philadelphia Pa before the last election. The Party reportedly has spent well over one million dollars to keep from laying out a 10 dollar copy of his birth certificate.

This would not be if he had a valid birth certificate. The fact is he does not. It couldn’t be any more simple. He does not have a birth certificate from the United States. After 5 years of this nonsense, you should also be convinced. If you are not, you are not paying attention. He assumed the office of the President of the United States while not being elligible under the Constitution of the United States. If he were, he would have shown it by now.


39 posted on 02/01/2012 4:42:58 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent (I)
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To: Music Producer

To the author...

Who do YOU mean by we?

You must have a mouse in your pocket or you are assuming you know me well enough to speak for me.

Save your breath.


40 posted on 02/01/2012 5:10:49 PM PST by Randy Larsen (ROTFLMFAO!)
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