“Mormons have the most thorough geneology records ever ammassed in one place. They made special effort to gather the names of Jews murdered during the Holocaust so they could specifically baptize them into the Mormon faith to ‘save their souls’ and add them to their own rolls...as Mormons and not Jews. Conversion after death is not uncommon in the Mormon ‘church’.”
Mormons do genealogy to determine who their ancestors were, and their ancestors are the only dead people that they baptize. Called vicarious baptism.
Non-Mormons us their records, and to learn generally how to do genealogy research. I visited their local research site, and was helped with not a word about joining their church.
In fact many of the assistants at Mormon genealogy research sites are non-Mormons.
You are quite naive. According to Mormons, everyone in the world is their anscestor. Just as the islamists believe that Moses and Jesus were muslims even htough ilam did not exist either duing Moses OR Jesus.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,449727,00.html
EXCERPT:
Holocaust Survivors Want Mormons to Stop Baptizing Dead Jews
November 11, 2008
Holocaust survivors said Monday they are through trying to negotiate with the Mormon church over posthumous baptisms of Jews killed in Nazi concentration camps, saying the church has repeatedly violated a 13-year-old agreement barring the practice.
Leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints say they are making changes to their massive genealogical database that will make it more difficult for names of Holocaust victims to be entered for posthumous baptism by proxy, a rite that has been a common Mormon practice for more than a century.
But Ernest Michel, honorary chairman of the American Gathering of Holocaust Survivors, said that is not enough. At a news conference in New York City on Monday, he said the church also must “implement a mechanism to undo what you have done.”
“Baptism of a Jewish Holocaust victim and then merely removing that name from the database is just not acceptable,” said Michel, whose parents died at Auschwitz. He spoke on the 70th anniversary of Kristallnacht, the Nazi-incited riots against Jews.
“We ask you to respect us and our Judaism just as we respect your religion,” Michel said in a statement released ahead of the news conference. “We ask you to leave our six million Jews, all victims of the Holocaust, alone, they suffered enough.”
Michel said talks with Mormon leaders, held as recently as last week, have ended. He said his group will not sue, and that “the only thing left, therefore, is to turn to the court of public opinion.”
In 1995, Mormons and Jews inked an agreement to limit the circumstances that allow for the proxy baptisms of Holocaust victims. Ending the practice outright was not part of the agreement and would essentially be asking Mormons to alter their beliefs, church Elder Lance B. Wickman said Monday in an interview with reporters in Salt Lake City.
“We don’t think any faith group has the right to ask another to change its doctrines,” Wickman said. “If our work for the dead is properly understood ... it should not be a source of friction to anyone. It’s merely a freewill offering.”
Michel’s decision to unilaterally end discussion of the issue through a news conference leaves the church uncertain about how to proceed, Wickman said.
Baptism by proxy allows faithful Mormons to have their ancestors baptized into the 178-year-old church, which they believe reunites families in the afterlife.
Using genealogy records, the church also baptizes people who have died from all over the world and from different religions. Mormons stand in as proxies for the person being baptized and immerse themselves in a baptismal pool.
Only the Jews have an agreement with the church limiting who can be baptized, though the agreement covers only Holocaust victims, not all Jewish people. Jews are particularly offended by baptisms of Holocaust victims because they were murdered specifically because of their religion.
Mormons baptize all the dead people they can find.
They believe people who have died can be baptized by proxy, thus allowing them the opportunity to become Mormons after their death. The idea behind baptism for the dead is this: God wants each of us to be with him in glory. To effect this, he allows us to accept the Mormon gospel here on earth. If we do not, he sends us to a “spirit prison” until the Mormon gospel has been preached to us there and we convert.
Mormons believe that their church has missionaries in the “spirit world” who are busy spreading the Mormon gospel to dead people who have not yet received it. Should any of these dead people want to convert to Mormonism, they are required to abide by all its rules, one of which is water baptism. Hence the need for proxies to receive the corporeal waters of baptism.
You might be surprised to learn that the Mormon church has teams of men and women microfilming records of Catholic and Protestant parishes, cemetery records, birth and death certificates—virtually any sort of record pertaining to past generations. Temple Mormons hope, in time, to have all of the dead of previous generations baptized posthumously into the Mormon church.
Baptism for the Dead v. Baptism of Desire
One reason Mormons advance the practice of baptism for the dead is a sense of justice. Billions of people have died without ever hearing the gospel of Christ and without having the chance to be baptized into his Church. How could God consign such people to damnation without giving them the chance to be saved? Surely he would give them that chance. But if they never heard the gospel in this life, when else could they hear and respond to it except in the next life?
There are a number of problems with this line of reasoning. Scripture is very clear in stating that this life is the only chance we get. Once we die, our fate is sealed: “It is appointed for men to die once, and after that comes judgment” (Heb. 9:27). There are no “second chances” after death. Consequently, God judges individuals based on their actions in this life. Since he is a just judge, he does not hold people accountable for what they did not and could not have known. Thus, those who do not hear the gospel in this life will be judged based on the knowledge they did have in this life. God gives his light to all people (John 1:9), and the universe itself gives evidence of God (Ps. 19:1-4), evidence which is sufficient to establish basic moral accountability (Rom. 1:18-21). For those who are ignorant by no fault of their own, God will not hold their ignorance against them; but it is wrong to assume that people have no light from God unless they hear an oral proclamation of the gospel.
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/mormonisms-baptism-for-the-dead
Sorry, but you’re wrong about Mormons only baptizing theurviwn dead ancestors. 90+ % of what gies on in their “temples” is vicarious baptizing.
Their have been numerous lawsuits from Jewish groups to force the Mormons to “cease & desist from baptizing holocaust victims, but they continue. A family who used the Mormon hematology websites found that their relatives, who were murdered in Poland, had been baptized.
This is a terrible practice, and an invasion if privacy, and a scam, as the Mormons charge to use their sites.
Do some research about this cult that rakes in hundreds of millions a year, and wants to put one if their Bishops in the WH.
Sorry, but you’re wrong about Mormons only baptizing theurviwn dead ancestors. 90+ % of what gies on in their “temples” is vicarious baptizing.
Their have been numerous lawsuits from Jewish groups to force the Mormons to “cease & desist from baptizing holocaust victims, but they continue. A family who used the Mormon geneaology websites found that their relatives, who were murdered in Poland, had been baptized.
This is a terrible practice, and an invasion if privacy, and a scam, as the Mormons charge to use their sites.
Do some research about this cult that rakes in hundreds of millions a year, and wants to put one if their Bishops in the WH.
Here it is: