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No BCS National Championship Game This Year
town hall ^ | 1/09/12 | reasonmclucus

Posted on 01/09/2012 1:50:51 PM PST by kathsua

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To: dfwgator
"I’m all on board with the 4-team playoff, beyond that, I don’t think will be worth it."

Woulda been great to see Weeden and Blackmon taking on the Alabama D. What a freaking waste.

81 posted on 01/10/2012 7:24:46 AM PST by RabidBartender (The above statement is not meant to be offensive to women. Please don't whine and have me banned.)
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To: kathsua

What a huge pile of horse crap! I’ve watched high schools raises money with “cow pasture bingo” that were of more significance than this game. Where was the LSU that beat Oregon at the beginning of the season? My end-season Ducks would have gone through either one of the jokes that were at the top of the BCS and ended with 100 points. When will the idiots that call themselves administrators and athletic directors realize that the BCS is a sham?


82 posted on 01/10/2012 7:38:37 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: Will88
There was no debate on that except from OSU fans and folks who don't like the SEC.

Nonsense. I have no particular animus for the SEC nor do I even like Oklahoma State. I still maintain that they were robbed of their chance by a flawed system, and the computers agree with me, though the sportswriters don't. (And on the whole, I have more use for computers than sportswriters.)

83 posted on 01/10/2012 7:47:09 AM PST by kevkrom (Note to self: proofread, then post. It's better that way.)
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To: kevkrom

You’re the one spreading the nonsense. A team loses to a third rate opponent and then should be in the national championship game?

OSU had a clear path and blew it, and had wins over what were proved at the end of the season to be overrated opponents. Remember that great, early season clash between #1 Oklahoma and #5 FSU? And ranked Texas? And how does KSU now look after their game with Arkansas, which Bama beat by four touchdowns?

Looking at the full year including the bowl results shows which teams were overrated due to weak opponents.


84 posted on 01/10/2012 7:53:28 AM PST by Will88
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To: kevkrom

The SEC fans would agree with you if you brought up the 2004 exclusion of Auburn (12-0) from the BCS title game where USC (now disqualified) played Oklahoma. Man, there was much whining on the FR boards that year.


85 posted on 01/10/2012 7:54:40 AM PST by RabidBartender (The above statement is not meant to be offensive to women. Please don't whine and have me banned.)
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To: Will88
OSU beat more top 20 teams than Alabama did, but somehow you focus on the one game they did poorly rather than their quality wins. There's a reason the computers (which don't suffer from nearly as much bias as the self-affirming community of sportswriters and coaches) ranked them higher than Alabama -- because they looked at the entire season.

Remember, Alabama was #1, and lost at home in the world's most boring field goal kicking contest, therefore not even making it to their conference championship game, let alone winning their conference. Meanwhile, OSU's lone loss was worse, but they had more quality wins and won conference title in the second best conference in the country.

I'd say there's at least a reasonable argument in favor of OSU. The only people who seem to dismiss that out of hand are SEC partisans.

(For the record, I'm a Big 10 partisan, but I have the good sense to not claim that any Big 10 team should have even been included in a playoff...)

86 posted on 01/10/2012 8:06:04 AM PST by kevkrom (Note to self: proofread, then post. It's better that way.)
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To: RabidBartender

A playoff would have settled that as well.

As far as disqualified teams are concerned, let’s not even get into the whole murky scenario of how Cam Newton was mysteriously investigated and cleared last year between the end of the regular season and the Heisman award, when his did was out shopping him to the highest bidder.

And of course, we have the Reggie Bush era USC teams. Just as well that Texas beat ‘em anyway thanks to an all-time great effort from Vince Young.

But while that is another significant topic, it’s kind of irrelevant to this discussion, as unless/until teams are DQ’d, the case of BCS standings vs. playoffs is unaffected.


87 posted on 01/10/2012 8:16:26 AM PST by kevkrom (Note to self: proofread, then post. It's better that way.)
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To: kevkrom

Whine some more but get your facts straight. Alabama was ranked #2 when Alabama and LSU played the first time. So Alabama lost in overtime to the number one team in the country. Quality wins? Unfortunately, the quality loss counted more in the minds of those who vote on this stuff.

SEC has how many in a row?????


88 posted on 01/10/2012 8:27:42 AM PST by petitfour
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To: kevkrom
OSU beat more top 20 teams than Alabama did,

That's just a bad joke that people keep repeating. OSU beat several grossly overrated teams. Try to find those teams in the final rankings after twelve or thirteen games have been played.

Bama played two top five teams. The first OSU opponents that can be found are down at #15 and #16. The final rankings give us the real relative strengths of the two teams' schedules. OSU played a weak schedule and lost to a third rate opponent.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/polls

89 posted on 01/10/2012 8:40:13 AM PST by Will88
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To: petitfour
So Alabama lost in overtime to the number one team in the country.

Overtime? OVERTIME?? Everyone whines about the BCS set up being a joke, but the rules of CFB overtime makes the BCS decisions seem brilliant by comparison!

As far as I'm concerned, the first LSU-Alabama matchup was a 6-6 tie. The ADHD public DEMANDS a winner and a loser, so there is an after-the-fact contrivance called overtime to keep the masses happy.

This, of course, is some delicious irony, given the fact that, in kiddy sports, they don't even keep score. EVERYONE is a winner. Can't hurt little Johnny or little Janie's self-esteem, after all.

90 posted on 01/10/2012 8:40:21 AM PST by ssaftler ("John Galt, we need you!")
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To: Will88

Here are a couple of those great OSU wins:

OSU 52 KSU 45

OSU 30 A&M 29

The Big 12 is a league unfamiliar with defense. And KSU didn’t finish so well with a 29 - 16 loss to Arkansas, a team both Bama and LSU beat by four touchdowns, and both could have been worse. And A&M was 7-6 this year.


91 posted on 01/10/2012 9:12:21 AM PST by Will88 (ar)
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To: Will88

The Big 12 should change their name to the ‘Arena Football League.’


92 posted on 01/10/2012 9:13:14 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Lol, and the more someone looks, the less impressive that great OSU “body of work” looks. They played a bunch of overrated teams that didn’t look so good after playing a full schedule.

I still recall the great clash between #1 Oklahoma and #5 FSU.


93 posted on 01/10/2012 9:17:20 AM PST by Will88 (ar)
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To: ssaftler

I agree, I’d rather go back to ties.


94 posted on 01/10/2012 9:18:38 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: RabidBartender
Woulda been great to see Weeden and Blackmon taking on the Alabama D. What a freaking waste.

OSU would have woken up in a roadside ditch.

95 posted on 01/10/2012 9:20:29 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: OB1kNOb

How did either one of those schools beat Arkansas? Arkansas looked more like a national champion than either LSU or Alabama.


96 posted on 01/10/2012 12:41:37 PM PST by kathsua (A woman can do anything a man can do and have babies besides.)
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To: Sudetenland

Neither one looked like it belonged in the top 10. There were very few plays that were worth remembering.

The New Year’s Day were much better.


97 posted on 01/10/2012 12:48:16 PM PST by kathsua (A woman can do anything a man can do and have babies besides.)
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To: kathsua
Neither one looked like it belonged in the top 10. There were very few plays that were worth remembering.

So if the two best heavyweights fight for 15 rounds and there are no knockdowns, that means they aren't the best?

98 posted on 01/10/2012 12:50:04 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: kathsua
The New Year’s Day were much better.

If you enjoy games with Arena League scores. All I saw was a lot of bad defense. Bama or LSU wipe the floor with any of those teams.

99 posted on 01/10/2012 12:51:34 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: kathsua
Arkansas looked more like a national champion than either LSU or Alabama.

Except when they played LSU or Alabama.

100 posted on 01/10/2012 12:53:04 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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