Posted on 01/04/2012 9:28:40 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama
I must say, the 2012 Iowa Caucus was magnificent.
ABSOLUTELY magnificent.
You see, the good guys won for a change.
Mitt Commie failed and Jew hater Ron Paul was delivered a staggering defeat.
Now, before we get started, let's get a few things clear. Number one, I don't shill for candidates. I have my favorite candidate and you have yours. In this column, I will never tell you who to vote for. I will always tell you who I think is pond scum (like Mitt Commie, like former Obama syocphant Jon Huntsman, and last, and certainly least, Stormfront candidate Ron Paul), but I will never tell you who to vote for. (You're an adult, I trust you'll act accordingly.) Number two, I am fully aware that the Iowa Caucus is not that big of a deal. There's no need to remind me of that. (If you don't believe me, ask President Huckabee.)
The failure of Mitt Commie was mind boggling. Here was a guy with a campaign budget that was bigger than the GDP of El Salvador, who had been campaigning since John McLame's whimpering defeat in 2008, and had a cable news station (FNC, aka the Fox Neocon Channel) in the tank for him, and has a super PAC to do his hatchet work for him.......and yet........he barely beat Rick Santorum by 8 votes. Yep, you read that right, 8 measly votes. (It should be noted, that until very recently, Rick Santorum's campaign was being ignored by everyone not named Mark Levin and had 68 cents and pocket lint to its name.) Even uglier for Mitt Commie was the fact that he was unable to drive a wooden stake into the heart of nemesis Newt Gingrich's campaign. Despite being carpet bombed by Romney's PAC operatives and Establishment hacks, Gingrich placed a respectable fourth and lived to fight another day. In other words---Mitt Commie choked.
Meanwhile, in Red Skull Ron Paul's Fourth Reich, the Paultards are tickled Code Pinko.(Either that, or they're stoned out of their minds yet again.) They think their Fuhrer has won a great victory over the "neocon bankster Zionist war mongers" by placing third. In actuality, this is a resounding, Stalingrad-like defeat for Herr Doktor. See, Iowa laws allow anyone to change their party affiliation at the door of any caucus and vote. So in theory, every liberaltarian, every Green, every 9/11 Truther, every Neo-Nazi, every malcontent, and every so-called "independent" in the state of Iowa could have showed up and dragged the Surrender Monkey's carcass across the finish line. But they didn't. Despite the "money bombs", the "spamming", the "trolling", making pests of themselves on talk radio shows, and other Brownshirt-like behavior, RuPaul (H/T: Mark Levin) and his flunkies have failed and failed big time. Third place in a contest whose rules favor you is a complete and utter joke, much like saying Herr Doktor is a Conservative.
Let me repeat: No, I'm not shilling for anyone (as of yet, I'm still undecided) and yes, I know Iowa's not that big of a deal. However, a win's a win and I'll take 'em any way I can get 'em. If you don't win, you can't keep it classy and say things like this:
HEY RINOs AND PAULTARDS! IN YOUR FACE, DORKS!
I don’t see how a good 1/3 to 1/2 of Paul supporters will either not vote or vote for Obama if Paul isn’t the nominee. The Code Pink crowd and the ‘Herb’ smokers for sure will.
I’m going to help Rick Santorum and Rick Perry.
This thread is such a bad idea.
This race is going to be close. We are going to need every single vote and cannot afford to alienate anyone who opposes Obama for any reason. We have to be united going into the general and you are pushing some away. Should Paul decide to run as an independent, he can take 3-5 percent of the vote and keep Obama right where he is.
Not smart.
Confused perspective?
Who is more mainstream on Iran? Is it Ron Paul who opposes wasteful, expensive foreign wars, or is it Rick Santorum and his 700 Club followers who want to precipitate Armageddon in the Middle East?
Ron Paul is a centrist on foreign wars. He is supported by Independent and Moderate voters on that issue. Rick Santorum has no support on Iran outside of the Jerry Falwell constituency who were the 22 percent of Americans still backing W. in 2008.
You're the most powerful man in the country, apparently.
Only to a Paultard!
Look, this sentiment of “Don’t make them mad at us, or they will run independent and guarantee an Obama win” is just plain appeasement folks.
I’ve heard this same garbage way back during the Dole Campaign.
It’s primary season - NOW is the time to fight, and fight HARD for a TRUE Conservative, not some anti-Semitic conspiracy crackpot and Ruling Class Crony being foisted on us.
How does one apply the 11th Reagan Commandment when you have candidates running who ARE NOT TRUE REPUBLICANS??? Are we going to deliberately submit our Conservatism to defeat over fears that the crackpot might run third party or we might not get scraps front eh Ruling Class Table if Mittens wins?
Look, Ron Paul will probably run third party when he loses the GOP nomination. His mob-zombie cultists are already urging that course of action on their boards. Ron Paul IS NO Republican and he is NO Conservative. He runs on our ticket because that is the only way a libertarian can win elections.
As for Mittens, did we learn nothing from 2008? If you are going to run a Ruling Class liberal against a Marxist, the greater Big Government Leftist is going to win it hands down. That’s why the media and the regime are busy trying to convince America that Obama fears a Romney nomination, when the opposite is true. In a bid between two Statists - the greater Statist is going to win.
Them is just facts folks.
Screw appeasement. Screw compromise. Fight dammit!
We either fight now for SOMEONE who has a shred of Conservatism and consistency to our cause - or we surrender to those who honestly want Conservatives silenced, marginalized and rendered irrelevant. That is what Paulistinians will do, that’s what Mitten’s crew will do.
Sheesh, why even have a primary if we’re supposed to lie in fear of ‘offending’ other candidates’ followers? If I had to guess, a chunk of Paulistas would vote for Obama anyway if their vaunted political savior is not on the ticket, and it’s possible a lot of Mitten’s supporters might too.
It’s primary season, full throttle, engines ahead full, fight for a Conservative and damn the consequences. We can worry about patching things up after the convention.
Keep telling yourself that.
We saw what happened in 2006 and 2008 when W. was the candidate of the Iraq War. Obama won in 2008 because he promised to bring the troops home.
If you make the 2012 election about starting a war with Iran instead of defeating Obama, Obama will regain his support among Independent and Millennial voters.
The so-called “Paultards” are at the center of the electorate on starting a war with Iran. The warmongers are on the fringe on that issue.
Chill my friend. All last night did was show how the process is broken...Paul IS a nut and isnt taken seriously by anyone except perhaps Iowans and his cult-like followers.
Do you realize this is the year 2012?
Do you realize how much the demographics of this country have changed since the Bob Dole campaign when Gen X’ers were in high school? Millennial and Gen X voters are a much larger share of the electorate: 30 percent of voters in Iowa. There are more Independent voters. There are far more minorities.
Look at it this way: Pat Robertson and his Christian Zionist followers changed the Republican Party in the 1980s. That was 23 years ago. America is a different place now.
Once again, the people who calling Ron Paul a “kook” and a “crackpot” because of his opposition to starting an expensive, unnecessary war with Iran for theological reasons - those people are the minority, those people are nowhere near the center of the electorate, the country outside the Jerry Falwell/700 Club milieu is EXHAUSTED with endless foreign wars.
Apparently, the message hasn’t been sent: Newt Gingrich lost Evangelicals to Ron Paul in the Iowa caucus. He was actually destroyed by Ron Paul and Mitt Romney in the Iowa causes. That happened in one of the most Evangelical states in America.
I’m telling you it happened because of the endless war/endless debt issue. Just look at W’s spectacular collapse into the 20s between 2006 and 2008.
The people who were diehard supporters of Bush in 2008 at the height of his unpopularity are an even smaller share of the electorate in 2012. There is no path to victory in a general election for a Republican candidate who wants to start another war with Iran.
“It’s primary season, full throttle, engines ahead full, fight for a Conservative and damn the consequences. We can worry about patching things up after the convention.”
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Eveyone agrees that we have to nominate a conservative but you are treating potential votes as though they are an enemy. That is music to Obama’s ears. You are helping him keep the factions at each other’s throats.
Well. There is always the House and Senate.
No, the Iowa Caucus shows that Ron Paul has surged from 9.5 percent to 21.5 percent in Iowa, which is one of the most Evangelical states in America.
He did that by winning 50 percent of voters under 29 and 26 percent of voters 30 to 44 who are now 30 percent of the Iowa electorate. Ron Paul also won 18 percent of “Evangelical vote” who were almost certainly under the age of 44.
Ron Paul beat Newt Gingrich in Iowa 21 to 13. He beat Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann too. That’s because Paul won every demographic under the age of 40 by wide margins.
Rick Santorum won among White Evangelicals over the age of 45 who are declining percentage of the Republican electorate. He won over 50 percent of people who say that abortion is their most important issue.
The process is not “broken” ... the results only reflect changing demographics and the massive unpopularity of starting a war with Iran and a surging national debt with voters under the age of 40.
A “Millennial” voter is a voter who was born after 1981. “Gen X’ers” are voters who were born between 1965 and 1981.
There is that thing called “aging”: it is inevitable that older voters comprise a shrinking percentage of the electorate, and younger voters a growing percentage of the electorate.
Ron Paul won 50 percent of voters 17 to 24, 45 percent of voters 25 to 29, and 34 percent of voters 30 to 39. Rick Santorum won 25 percent of voters 40 to 49 and 27 percent of voters 50 to 64. Mitt Romney won 33 percent of voters 65 and older.
Excuse you, I know that this is the only available anti-war forum talking points you have for reference, but the Democrat wins in 06 and 08 HAD NOTHING to do with the Code Pinko Agenda of "Bring the troops home" (I know you Paultards repeat this stuff over and over to try and convince yourselves) - it had everything to do with Conservatives being pissed off and discontent with the party for compromising with the Democrats on FISCAL matters.
By and large many Conservatives sat those elections out, and those who reluctantly supported the RINO candidate in 08, did so for Palin and it was too late to salvage the Establishment Candidate against the Chicago machine who did as you are requesting of us now: to keep on the kid gloves and say nothing bad about those whom are NOT Conservatives.
We tried it your way already, by being nice to those who are our ideological enemies. It does't work. It never works. We fight for what we believe, or die trying. Playing along to get along ensures more of the same. It's Primary season, why should we give a rat's arse about offending Paultards and Mittens supporters when (as you have demonstrated yourself) have no problem bashing Evangelicals and Conservatives?
If you make the 2012 election about starting a war with Iran instead of defeating Obama, Obama will regain his support among Independent and Millennial voters.
I can appreciate the fact you Ron Paul worshippers willfully ignore the FACT that Iran's regime has BEEN AT WAR WITH US SINCE 1979. It's however, beyond reprehensible for you people to tar anyone noting the danger a nuclear-armed Iran is, as 'warmongering' or 'starting a war' with Iran. War is upon us, whether you want it or not. If want to keep appeasing Jihadists - then do so while risking your own neck and not risking genocide for the rest of us.
The so-called “Paultards” are at the center of the electorate on starting a war with Iran. The warmongers are on the fringe on that issue.
It's beyond ludicrous to assert that the mainstream of America wants to appease and surrender to avowed enemies by turning tail and running away home so the Iranian regime can finish making nukes so they can usher in their 12th Imam and instigate world conquest.
Look, I know the Paultards are committed Pacifists and Isolationists - but I refuse to get along with idiots willing for us to commit nation suicide, thinking themselves more moral, while clueless about this hostile world we live in.
It's just another example of why Paulistinians and RINO's do not belong in a Conservative party.
Do you realize how much the demographics of this country have changed since the Bob Dole campaign when Gen X’ers were in high school? Millennial and Gen X voters are a much larger share of the electorate: 30 percent of voters in Iowa. There are more Independent voters. There are far more minorities.
Wow. I heard the same thing, almost verbatim from an Obama drone in '08.
It really is uncanny how much alike the Paulistinians and the Obama drones sound. Do you folks share the same talking points bible?
Look at it this way: Pat Robertson and his Christian Zionist followers changed the Republican Party in the 1980s. That was 23 years ago. America is a different place now.
Yes, yes. We know. The "old" America is a thing of the past. The 'era of Reagan' is over and such stuff. We have even heard from the Obama Drones this same thing in regards to the fact that there is nothing wrong with Socialism either, and we should embrace it if we want to win any future elections.
Pretty sure my reply to such nonsense is: "Nuts".
Oh, and curious regarding this continuous bilge of reference to "Christian Zionists". I'm assuming this is what you Paulistas who read Stormfront and Personals from David Duke are pulling from as the reference, yes?
Once again, the people who calling Ron Paul a “kook” and a “crackpot” because of his opposition to starting an expensive, unnecessary war with Iran for theological reasons - those people are the minority, those people are nowhere near the center of the electorate, the country outside the Jerry Falwell/700 Club milieu is EXHAUSTED with endless foreign wars.
As always, the Ru Paul talking points are exactly that same as those found at Code Pink and other Anarchist/Pacifist Obama-supporting sites and pages.
Since Christian Conservatives (or Zionists as you referenced) are an obvious enemy to your ideological viewpoints, and to be blamed for losses to your candidate and the Ruling Class Establishment Candidate, why do you care on a Conservative forum if we distance and disparage your chosen political saviors and candidates? Why warn us against angering what you erroneously assert is the 'great center" if we are all just 'fringe warmongers'?? Apparently, the message hasn’t been sent: Newt Gingrich lost Evangelicals to Ron Paul in the Iowa caucus.
Wow, that wouldn't be because of Newt's known philandering and multiple marriages now would it? No! It's because Evangelicals (aka: Christian Zionists) know Ron Paul is near-divine and the only true Christian and Savior of liberty in this race./sarc. I’m telling you it happened because of the endless war/endless debt issue. Just look at W’s spectacular collapse into the 20s between 2006 and 2008.
Right. And the media had nothing to do with that, nor the disgust Conservatives had for the runaway domestic spending. No - according to you Paulistinians, it was our 'endless wars' that create our debt - not the endless welfare spending.
Look, we're not listening to you Code Pink, Stormfront Paulistinians. You sound no different than the drones who pined for Obama. There is no path to victory in a general election for a Republican candidate who wants to start another war with Iran.
I think NerObama will get us there sooner (he may have no choice, enemies always tend to strike weakness). But in regards to your statement - methinks it reminds of something Neville Chamberlain may have told Winston Churchill at one time in the late 1930's.
Yeah, sure. The Boomers have all died off.
Oops, they haven't.
Any other moronic observations you wish to add to this thread?
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