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Sadly, it takes guts to propose this when mention of the D word to patients still raises alarms. The Obama administration had to cancel plans for Medicare to reimburse doctors when they discuss end-of-life care with their patients. Death panels! Rationing!

The New York Times just hates the fact that Zero's plans for rationing and death panels got exposed.

1 posted on 12/31/2011 1:35:39 PM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 12/31/2011 1:37:03 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 12/31/2011 1:37:42 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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I can’t wait untill All The News That’s Fit To Slant gets relegated to the dustbin of history!


4 posted on 12/31/2011 1:43:05 PM PST by sauropod (Ann Coulter does NOT choose my presidential candidate!)
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No offense but I don’t want any doc treating me that has already made up his mind I’m not going to live beyond “x” amount of time. Guy’s already got that in his head I’m not going to make it and quite frankly that doc may have already determined what they won’t do for me to beat the odds. Because it may go beyond what I should rate for care, they could get penalized for doing more than what they’re told is acceptable for a person my age.

Screw this. This world is not going to be running this way much longer.


5 posted on 12/31/2011 1:43:28 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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So they are saying, give up “hope” and the doc will brief you with “change”? Cool!


6 posted on 12/31/2011 1:43:52 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed!!!!!)
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Dr. Smith, a palliative care specialist at the University of California...

"Palliative Care Specialist" is just a euphemism for DEATH PANEL MEMBER.

8 posted on 12/31/2011 1:51:46 PM PST by Ken522
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This is similar to a caller on Mark Levin- posted on FreeRepublic previously-— pretty scary.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2811322/posts


14 posted on 12/31/2011 2:12:03 PM PST by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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Peath Danels.


17 posted on 12/31/2011 2:17:56 PM PST by denydenydeny (The more a sys<tem is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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Dr. Smith is quite the hero, isn’t he?


20 posted on 12/31/2011 2:40:53 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Will we report to “carousel” like in Logan’s Run or will be be recycled into chemicals like in Brave New World?


25 posted on 12/31/2011 2:50:07 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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A lot of this nonsense could be eliminated with just two things. First of all, an “actual death clock”, in which a person enter, or has entered for them, lots of personal details about their life, health and history. In exchange, they are given a window in the future in which they are likely to die.

Importantly, in many instances, this can be recalculated, based on changing current habits. In other cases, like past alcohol, tobacco, and drug use and overuse, people are stuck with the damage they did to their bodies when they were younger.

All it does is give them a statistical curve of people like them, with all sorts of modifications based on the information they provide.

The second thing that people really need is available, but needs to be in a clear format for them, depending on the state in which they live. It is a comprehensive “getting your paperwork in order”, far beyond a will, a living will, powers of attorney, trusts, a pre-written obituary with mailing addresses, video inventory of goods, and the rest of the usual stuff.

It might include a section on recording important memories for relatives, future advice and greetings, descriptions of important artifacts that would not be recognized otherwise, such as jewelry, precious memorabilia and antiques, etc.


30 posted on 12/31/2011 3:06:19 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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The press has now gotten so activist/biased it really is no longer necessary to try to explain why liberals are full of baloney when they try to pretend liberal media bias is a myth.

It’s really only necessary anymore just to say loudly: “Bullcrap”!

Everyone sees it anymore.


38 posted on 12/31/2011 3:27:44 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (ROMNEY / ALINSKY 2012 (sarcasm))
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We have to experience Pelosi before we know what it does.

Obamacare's Palliative End of Life Optimum Serenity Initiative (PELOSI).

"Old people never seem to die, they just get in the way."

President Obama: At that age just a pill might be better than expensive cures.

Former Senate Majority Leader Democrat Tom Daschle has praised Europeans for being more willing to accept "hopeless diagnoses" and "forgo experimental treatments," and he chastises Americans for expecting too much from the health-care system.

Former governor of Colorado Democrat Richard Lamm: Seriously ill old people have a duty to die and get out of the way.

Democrats can be gruff but honest about the problems facing Social Security and Medicare: a gizillion geezers too many! Off 'em.

42 posted on 12/31/2011 3:46:28 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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75 posted on 01/01/2012 11:53:04 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Discuss end of life wishes with the old? we docs already do this...

but the NYTimes is upset because blacks and other minorities refuse to sign living wills to let doctors remove wanted treatment that cost taxpayers money.


79 posted on 01/01/2012 11:39:59 PM PST by LadyDoc
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