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To: mjp

“The Founding Fathers rejected anarchy because they knew that in the long run it would evolve into gang warfare and a form of statism of gang rule.”

Ridiculous. Anarchy was not even on the table for rejection because local and state governments alredy existed as legitimate respected authority against gang warfare and gang rule.

“The Founding Fathers were seeking a golden mean of freedom between big government statism and anarchy.”

Wrong again. The Founding Fathers were seeking a balance between the several states’ authority and a Federal Government they feared would evolve into big government statism.


11 posted on 12/16/2011 10:45:42 AM PST by ngat
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To: ngat

“Wrong again. The Founding Fathers were seeking a balance between the several states’ authority and a Federal Government they feared would evolve into big government statism.”

Great point; and for a good part of the nation’s history - with the exception of the Civil War, that balance we believe was intended to be resolved in the Constitution prevailed.

It began to be undone with the change to popular election of Senators (eliminating the “direct representation” of the states in the Federal government), the personal income tax, the “New Deal” additions to the “regulatory state”, all the “progressive” additions to that state since then and the slide into the “living Constitution” by the judiciary.

Those who feared most about the slide into statism seem, at this point, to have been more prescient than their detractors.

At this point in our Republic, no major party acts in true opposition to that slide into statism. We have been reduced to a competition for the financial and power-levers of the state between crony-capitalists and Marxists, and with that competition more and more dominant at the Federal level and the Federal level more and more dominant in the economy and society.

True “free enterprise” “Libertarian capitalism died, possibly, in the period from WWII to the 1970s. Even in the “hi tech” world private enterprises spend only an “infant” period before joining the competition in trying to secure (buy) their place within the embrace of the state, and few are truly seeking to secure more of their Liberty and ours from that state.


20 posted on 12/16/2011 11:35:50 AM PST by Wuli
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