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Ron Paul Campaign Supporters Possibly Stealing Credit Card Numbers to Boost Fundraising? (2007)
Shadow Democracy ^ | 2007

Posted on 12/16/2011 9:20:02 AM PST by mnehring

Proof has surfaced that the Ron Paul campaign received monies from people resorting to some unscrupulous donation tactics – in short, credit card theft.

According to Jaye Ruffino, a political contributor, identity thieves tried to run a test charge on her account and it was frozen.

“I told them this doesn’t make any sense, because this isn’t a credit card, it’s a check card, and I’ve got plenty of money in there, so what’s the problem?” Ruffino said.

A customer service representative for her bank informed her of a suspicious charge.

The bank representative explained that someone by the name of Ron Paul has been trying to take $5 out of the aforementioned account.

As it turns out, currently unidentified credit card thieves used Ruffino’s card to run a test charge, with the money allegedly going to the Ron Paul presidential campaign fund.

Identity theft usually works this way: Thieves gather up stolen credit card numbers online and run the test charges to see which numbers will work. If the charge goes through, they know they have an active card. Later, the hit the card for more money. It appears that is what happened here.

Representatives for the Ron Paul campaign said they have discovered more than a dozen mysterious $5 contributions in the past three days and said they’re working with banks to return the money.

A representative for the Texas Attorney General’s Office on Friday said these crimes are rarely prosecuted, because by the time thieves are tracked down, they’re often in other counties, and the Web sites are shut down.

We know that there have been campaign contribution improprieties in other campaigns, but those incidents usually involved one large donor. This situation suggests that the Ron Paul campaign cannot be trusted with credit card security or donations from small donors, and appears to be the first time this issue has come up in any political campaign among any of the current presidential candidates.

In the mean time, you may want to think twice before giving your credit card information to the Ron Paul campaign.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: creditcardfraud; rino; ronpaul
As the Paul campaign attempts to have a 'record moneybum' today, a reminder to watch your credit cards closely per what happened in 2007. When you get into bet with groups like Anonymous and other punks, shenanigans happen.
1 posted on 12/16/2011 9:20:08 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

This does not surprise me. Considering who his supporters are.


2 posted on 12/16/2011 9:26:49 AM PST by marty60
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To: marty60
You can't trust any of those loser-tarians. I wish they would all vanish from Free Republic forever.

/end sarc.

3 posted on 12/16/2011 9:33:42 AM PST by GSWarrior (Businessmen are more trustworthy than politicians, professors and preachers.)
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To: mnehring
Identity theft usually works this way: Thieves gather up stolen credit card numbers online and run the test charges to see which numbers will work. If the charge goes through, they know they have an active card. Later, the hit the card for more money. It appears that is what happened here.

Representatives for the Ron Paul campaign said they have discovered more than a dozen mysterious $5 contributions in the past three days and said they’re working with banks to return the money.

This is a lot of risk for someone to take for about $60 (5 * 12). The campaign would have been very stupid to participate in it.

This is classic credit card fraud tactics: someone stole the number, or auto-generated it (see below) and was testing to see if it was valid. The merchant had nothing to do with it, other than they get the charge-backs from their processor and a black-mark on their merchange account for repeated fraud.

Credit card numbers must conform to a specific algorithm. The leading digits are combined to generate a result, which must match the check (last) digit in the credit card number. The algorithm is widely known -- you can find it on the 'Net, complete with code in C, Java, Perl, or PHP. Systems validate the check digit before submitting the card number for authorization.

Since each of the major credit cards start with the same prefix (1-4 digits, depending on the issuer), it's not hard to write a program to generate credit card numbers that will pass the check digit test. But, you still don't know if they are valid.

4 posted on 12/16/2011 9:38:35 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: justlurking

The campaign probably knew nothing about it but some of his supporters are some very dedicated people who probably think they are helping....


5 posted on 12/16/2011 9:43:55 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: marty60

Why does Ron Paul and his supporters remind me of the Lyndon LaRouche phenomenon on the right?


6 posted on 12/16/2011 10:03:28 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: mnehring

And this was When? 2007?

Amazing. Paul’s running #3 as a candidate by most concerns, which makes him viable.

Where’s all the “Big Tent Party” stuff about the Republicans?

Whether anyone likes it or Not, Wining Elections is a game of Numbers. So we’ll just make Absolutely Certain that a whole bunch of Paul supporters, if they don’t get Paul as the nominee, will feel OK about voting for Newt, Ric, or Mittens, because the “Big Tent” Republicans selected one of them, for everyone else.

Keep it up. Keep Bashing the libertarians. Drive them all off with this bombast. Republicans don’t need their votes Anyway, with Paul at 16+% of the possible Republican vote.

Is This the way Ronald Reagan would have gone after those 16% of the votes?

The only one This attitude is helping is Obama.


7 posted on 12/16/2011 10:06:15 AM PST by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: mnehring

Interesting people assume these are Ron Paul supporters...

Have to remember that credit/debit card thieves will usually test a stolen card against an innocuous target...

...usually against a gas station pump.

Other innocuous targets can be Salvation Army or as noted here, a political campaign.

If a card works, usually within minutes they’re off shopping for their “real” stuff - often in the hundreds and thousands.

For me as a victim - it was a gas station pump test and then a quick run to 1-800-FLOWERS.

=8-)


8 posted on 12/16/2011 10:09:56 AM PST by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: wildbill

Birds of a feather.


9 posted on 12/16/2011 11:51:31 AM PST by marty60
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To: =8 mrrabbit 8=
For me as a victim - it was a gas station pump test and then a quick run to 1-800-FLOWERS

For me, it was a couple of DVDs from a mail-order supplier. My bank thought it might just be a mistake, and wouldn't cancel the card.

Then a week later, the floodgates opened. It got cancelled quickly after that.

10 posted on 12/16/2011 12:10:39 PM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: mnehring
No offense, but this is the single dumbest anti-Paul thread this year yet. Do you really think you're on a divine mission to effectively stop people from donating to Paul today? Heck, I just chucked in another $20 as a result of this thread.

Hint...Paul has no chance of winning the primary. Your time is better spent on defending Newtie from the attacks that Romney's people are inevitably going to use against him and, God forbid, win. I'll laugh, in a sad but resigned sort of way.

11 posted on 12/16/2011 5:09:18 PM PST by jmc813
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