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To: caww

Rampant H5N1 - rampant HIV due to the Moslem addiction to pederasty - and voila!

(I don’t understand how H5N1 and HIV can “mix” but I am so uneducated it ain’t funny.)

I think H5N1 is going Tamiflu resistant and H2H right now in Indonesia. That alone will create a pandemic with a huge CFR - case fatality rate.


188 posted on 01/25/2012 11:35:59 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: little jeremiah; PA Engineer
Ok so this looks like a pandemic warning....and no surprise the middle easterns to do with for their twisted minds concerning the body male to male etc. Incubators perhaps.

At any rate it seems it's not a matter of containment....one day it's going to cut loose regardless...and cross all borders since there are fast becoming no borders for any nations peoples.

Makes one imagine there was a reason why God kept the middle eastern nations isolated for so many years....now we're rolling out the red carpet in most nations....and with them comes a host of diseases etc. not to mention bugs and critters we never had to deal with.

191 posted on 01/25/2012 11:53:15 PM PST by caww
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To: little jeremiah
Just as a bit of clarification.

MA’s thesis is not that HIV will mix with H5N1, but rather that HIV has been permeating all cultures and regions and is trying to break out (become airborne).

HIV is one of the most mutanaginic bugs on earth and soon one of those mutations will be able to be expelled by an infected person and ride the cough to another's lungs - a very deadly event.

Her point is that because of all the eyes watching for the H5N1 virus in Egypt - it will be the first place where we will notice the outbreak (because of the similarity of symptoms it will misdiagnosed as H5N1)

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Q: Ma if you are not sure how it changes then how can you be so certain it will be dangerous?

MA: Well, it is not so black and white as you make it. What I believe is that it will change. It will go airborne and it will become quick and deadly. When it makes that magic mutation that gives it the ability to ride the water droplets expelled in a cough or sneeze to the lungs of a healthy person - not only will it have found the mechanism for rapid transmission but the mutation will also set in motion a very different chain of events from what we know now.

When the new HIV virus arrives in the lungs of a new patient there is the great potential for a positive feedback loop to be established between the new invader and the host's immune system. At the arrival of the new pathogen, cytokine will signal the body to send T Cells to fight the infection. The T cells, upon being stimulated by the cytokine will begin to produce even more cytokine.

This is the normal reaction and happens all the time. But we have a real problem don't we?

Q: HIV lives on T cells?

MA: Yes of course. So now we have the feedback loop. T cells rushing to the lungs where they are infected with new virus and more and more cytokine being produced by the body. The result is called a “Cytokine Storm”. The lungs begin to fill with fluids and immune cells. The result is sudden death. When this event takes place in the lungs, it can kill a healthy young person in less than 48 hours. We learned this lesson in the 1918 flu outbreak.

Q: So the hardy virus can jump from lungs to lungs and once there put in motion a very serious reaction that will kill you rather quickly. Is that about it?

MA: Just about, the only addition I would add is that once the new bug creates this “soup” in the lungs - with each cough or sneeze this deadly pathogen is sent on an airborne journey looking for a healthy lung to infect.

211 posted on 01/26/2012 12:07:30 PM PST by James Oscar
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