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Cheney: Why didn’t Obama just destroy the drone when he had the chance?
Hot Air ^ | December 13, 2011 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 12/13/2011 12:50:43 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Three options and 0bungles chooses to vote 'present.'

He is an epic fail of a human being.

21 posted on 12/13/2011 1:16:05 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Hodar
It took him 16 hours to make up his mind to give the order to kill Bin Laden--Reagan, George W. Bush, Truman, or either Roosevelt would have given the order within 16 seconds.

Either he was paralyzed with indecision...or he wanted the Iranians to have the drone intact.

22 posted on 12/13/2011 1:16:05 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: jessduntno

^5


23 posted on 12/13/2011 1:16:54 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why didn’t Obama just destroy the drone when he had the chance?

Because then China wouldn't have funneled the agreed upon amount of money into his 2012 campaign coffers. The agreement was specifically for a fully intact drone...

24 posted on 12/13/2011 1:18:57 PM PST by apillar
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25 posted on 12/13/2011 1:20:01 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not to defend Obama if this article is true. But personally, I need a little more evidence that the destruction of the drone either before or after the landing was feasible. Design-wise I'm sure that in-the-air destruction was built in and with backup systems to make sure they could do it with very high reliability. But Murphy's Law sometime comes into play.

A couple of other things: One, the idea that Iran took control of this vehicle is simply nonsensical. The links may be jammable with enough power but the control signals would be highly encrypted and even with Russian help the Iranians could not control that aircraft. And they didn't shoot it down or it wouldn't still be in one piece. So it simply failed.

And the prospects for a successful Special Ops move on the downed drone seem problematic to me. Big disadvantage for the good guys in that kind of an operation. I doubt if the Generals would have recommended it.

Bottom line: Destroy in the air. If Obama could have and didn't that is treason pure and simple.

26 posted on 12/13/2011 1:22:36 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He had the choice of making a military decision or a political decision. A military decision would have been like take bin Laden out. He could have told the military to blow up the drone, which I’m sure the military presented to him. Instead of the military decision he made a political decision. Do nothing and hope for the best. He may have been worried that the military attack could have been interpreted as an attack on Iran. If Iran were to shoot down a drone, if they had one, over US territory we would do the same and call it an attack on the US.
Now Iran has threatened to block the Strait of Hormus. My guess is Obama will make another political decision and do nothing. Prepare for higher gas prices and emboldened Iranian actions.


27 posted on 12/13/2011 1:23:46 PM PST by Harley (Will Rogers never met Harry Reid.)
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To: Fresh Wind

The Establishment Republican line is that you can’t attack Obama because of the precious Independents. I think Perry might have the guts..Bachmann would...and Paul would call out Obama in his own crazy way. The rest of the field I’m not so sure of......


28 posted on 12/13/2011 1:24:24 PM PST by jakerobins
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The military should have destroyed it and then apologized to zero.


29 posted on 12/13/2011 1:26:57 PM PST by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: Parley Baer

At least since Nov. 2010 - I believe literally EVERYTHING Obama does is a domestic political calculation. Not economic, not moral, not national interest - nothing except political calculations.


30 posted on 12/13/2011 1:27:20 PM PST by PGR88
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To: InterceptPoint

He was given three options by the Department of Defense to destroy it from the air or take it back, IIRC. He voted “present” and did nothing. Google it.


31 posted on 12/13/2011 1:29:19 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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Cheney: "Why didn’t Obama just destroy the drone when he had the chance?"

CNN’s Erin Burnett: "But then the Iranians would be mad at us Mr. Cheney!"

32 posted on 12/13/2011 1:31:05 PM PST by TexasCajun (Fast & Furious , Solyndra & Light Squared would be enough to impeach any White President !!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Boy Zero only does things that will DAMAGE this fine country.
My question is why wont the people that have sworn the OATH have not intervened harshly
33 posted on 12/13/2011 1:31:16 PM PST by Tigen (I shall raise you one .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He was given three options by the Department of Defense to destroy it from the air or take it back, IIRC. He voted “present” and did nothing. Google it.

I read that. I know that. It is the credibility of the sources that I'm questioning. Too busy right now to do a deep Google search but I will later.

34 posted on 12/13/2011 1:32:36 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Isn’t this obvious? After the weekly Obama-Carter economic meeting, Jimmy offered Obama advice based on “real-world” experience. “Leave it in the Iranians’ hands”, said Carter, “there are too many things that can go wrong when using the military.”

Drone held Hostage ... Day #5.


35 posted on 12/13/2011 1:36:38 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Maxine, I'll see you there. I'm not changing my ways.)
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To: InterceptPoint

This whole regime is incredible, so who can you believe? Whenever I hear a Democrat or country club Republican state something, I almost assume the opposite out of hand.


36 posted on 12/13/2011 1:38:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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Cheney wonders why Obama didn't order an air strike on the downed aircraft while he still had the chance:

it's not too late to destroy the drone, it will just take a bigger bomb

37 posted on 12/13/2011 1:45:51 PM PST by drypowder
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s real simple Mr. Cheney, Obama is giving it to the Iranians so they can make copies as well as cause havoc with our remaining drones.
It’s called treason Mr. Cheney, which is what the Dems are best at.


38 posted on 12/13/2011 1:52:59 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: InterceptPoint
Design-wise I'm sure that in-the-air destruction was built in and with backup systems to make sure they could do it with very high reliability.

That was not one of the three options.

Obama Rejected Numerous Proposals to Retrieve Lost U.S. Drone: Officials Confirm Authenticity of Iranian TV Images Showing Drone

Among the options the U.S. considered were sending in a special-ops team to retrieve the drone; sending in a team to blow up the aircraft; and launching an airstrike to destroy it.

It is not likely that there are self-destruct mechanisms on our drones precisely because of Murphy's Law. They could put in a system to fry the electronics but that just makes one more system to go wrong and drop a drone where they don't want it. It doesn't destroy the composites the airframe are made of either and that's one of its secrets.

It is even less likely that they would rig it with high explosives to totally destroy it. That would make it dangerous for our ground crews to work with. It would also add significant weight to a vehicle that they have done everything possible to make as light as possible.

39 posted on 12/13/2011 2:00:59 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: InterceptPoint
I listened to an interview today with retired General McInerney. If you''re not familiar with him, here's his profile:

General McInerney is the founder of Government Reform Through Technology, a consulting firm that works with high-tech companies. GRTT conducts business with federal, state, city and local governments to help them introduce advanced technology into the public sector.

Prior to this, he was the CEO and the president of Business Executives for National Security, a national, nonpartisan organization of business and professional leaders.

For 35 years, General McInerney served as a pilot, commander, and strategic planner in the U.S. Air Force.

He retired from military service as Assistant Vice Chief of Staff of the Air Force and Director of the Defense Performance Review, reporting to the secretary of defense. He led the Pentagon's Reinventing Government effort, visiting more than 100 leading-edge commercial companies to assimilate their ideas about business re-engineering.

General McInerney graduated from the United States Military Academy and earned a master's degree in international relations from George Washington University. He also attended the Armed Forces Staff College and National War College.

He stated that the drone landed on a runway inside Iran, and that he suspected that, somehow, control of the drone was hijacked. That's pretty hard to imagine.

My opinion is that we should have done everything possible to destroy this thing, even if we had to bomb it on the ground. The Chief Executive was afraid to do this, fearing it would be construed an act of war. I agree with the poster who said we need a President who has a pair..

40 posted on 12/13/2011 2:02:52 PM PST by slouch-no-more
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