Posted on 12/12/2011 3:25:34 PM PST by Windflier
If you are a warrant officer and a two star general comes up to your console and suggests you take a walk, you take a walk.
I don’t mean to direct this at you specifically, but as a whole we have to stop being surprised when we discover that the Iranians are smart. They are among the smartest culture in the world. Many of them share a pretty twisted religion...but when it comes to math and science we underestimate them at our own peril.
Cool theory...THEY are the smartest kids in the room sometimes!
My dad was stationed there when he was a cook in the national guard. I actually visited the barracks there when I was about 5 or 6.
Seems like some weird scene out of Star Trek now, looking back on it.
On what evidence do you base that glowing endorsement? It's quite generalized, as well.
I've known Iranian people, and found them to be no smarter on average than anyone else in the room. Are you suggesting that the scientists who work on their military projects are smarter than ours?
If they're so damned smart, why aren't we stealing technology from them, instead of the other way around?
One of the things that I find tedious about Free Republic lately is the preponderance of penis measuring. When making any kind of point, the automatic response is “well, they are better than us?,” or “But Clinton did that...” or from the other side, “It’s Bush’s fault.”
We need to stop thinking in black and white. There is a ton of grey area out there. Open your mind to the potential that others may be working just as hard to beat us, and perhaps harder, than we are to beat them.
I never said they were the smartest people. I said they were smart.
The guys that make our stuff are pretty smart.
But put yourself in the position of the enemy: They get their top fifty minds focused on accomplishing a single goal...they fund them, and motivate them. And their motivation is being able to poke us in the eye.
For example, at the start of WWII, I don’t think anyone would argue that the Japanese Naval Aviators were pretty good...better than most of our guys. They could not imagine us having the capability to bomb Japan. But a group of highly motivated and focused men put together a pretty good plan, and bombed Japan. The raid was the ultimate poke in the eye...until 9/11.
Why is it so incredible that another country would focus their best and brightest to poke us.
The Iranians are like the Avis commercials of the past....they are not number one...they have to try harder.
I do not accept your hypothesis because you are incapable of proving it. If you can provide evidence to the contrary, I’ll reconsider my position.
They can try as hard as they like, but they'll never achieve our level of military superiority.
For one, their people are not united in purpose behind their political leadership (as ours were in WWII). The Iranian people are essentially being held hostage by the same debased crew of misfits and religious zealots who took over our embassy in the late 70s. That crew has systematically suppressed the freedoms and unique character of the Iranian people since they came to power.
Such a people do not win wars of conquest, despite the fact that they may be able to inflict grievous harm to the perceived enemies of the regime in power.
Secondly, a suppressed people do not have the collective freedom of mind, body, and spirit to produce major advancements in technology, such as are required to pose a real threat to opposing nations. They have to borrow all of the technology they need to wage war. Because of that, they are behind the curve in weapons system development. Note that they're now in possession of a device which their infrastructure did not envision or produce, and that they'll have to reverse engineer it to profit from it.
Your point that Iran is a real and present threat to our national security is well taken. I don't think the American people underestimate them, and I don't believe that our military and intelligence communities do either. Oddly enough, I don't even think our treasonous regime underestimates them, but it's populated by quisling traitors who are all too happy to allow Iran to sabre rattle and steal our technology.
You're arguing like a liberal. You came onto this thread vehemently disagreeing with the author's opinion that Obama essentially "gave" our drone to Iran, and now you're accusing me of being incapable of "proving" something.
I asked you a simple question, which you've still failed to answer. Are you, or are you not defending Obama? He stands accused here of malicious treason to our nation, and you have railed against that charge.
Are you defending Obama or not? If not, how so?
Either defend your first assertion on this thread, or walk away, but knock off the liberal debate tactics.
“Seems awfully suicidal, if you ask me.”
Yes, suicidal on their part.
What dots did he connect? This article, like his previous one, is full of wild speculation and no facts. This guy’s an idiot.
ya i’d take a walk... and then when I found out what happened when I got back, somebody wouldnt be able to walk again....
Really? The man stated his opinion, informed by much close observation of Obama, and filtered through his God-given powers of reasoning and analysis.
He's got an opinion, and apparently, so do you. Can't say that I care much for yours, but I'll give the author the benefit of the doubt.
Can you say “Leon Panetta”?
You seriously don't understand the meaning of that phrase? Yes, he did 'connect the dots'. Look it up, if you can't think with it.
Precisely.
And then you would walk to Levenworth.
Well said and good to run across a post from you.
FReegards
thanks mileHi... ya i still chime in from time to time...;)
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