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To: little jeremiah
This strawman of pretending that conservatives want federal laws about everything is getting extremely tiresome. I would say that what conservatives want is to have the fedgov butt out of states being able to make the laws they see fit to make.

But, then there is that whole morality thing?!? Those federal laws are OK, right? The role of the federal government, as outlined by the Constitution, leaves these matters at the state level. Desiring to leave the federal government out of the issue is not the same as accepting it.

99 posted on 12/06/2011 1:01:42 PM PST by RobertClark ("Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: RobertClark

Your reply makes very little sense.

Homosexuals in the military is a federal issue.

And the fedgov has no come down firmly on the pro-fag agenda in every conceivable way. What can states do at this point? Ideas?

And fag marriage in one state will eventually be forced on all the others via “full faith and credit” if something is not done on the fed levl.


103 posted on 12/06/2011 1:09:35 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: RobertClark
But, then there is that whole morality thing?!? Those federal laws are OK, right? The role of the federal government, as outlined by the Constitution, leaves these matters at the state level. Desiring to leave the federal government out of the issue is not the same as accepting it.

I want the fedgov to stick to its Constitutionally mandated duties, and nothing else. BUT the fedgov has usurped powers belonging to the states and forced all manner of immorality (and tons of other socialist garbage) on the states in divers ways. Now states cannot even if they want to enact laws against fag this and fag that.

Homos in the miltary is not a states' right issue, the military is under the jurisdiction of the federal goverment. I think you know that.

112 posted on 12/06/2011 1:21:23 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: RobertClark

No, they are not ok. The federal government should butt the hell out! It’s none of their business and it’s unconstitutional for them to butt in. The constitution restricts the federal government powers only to the dozen and half functions enumerated in Article I Section 8 and reserves all others to the states and the people.

The federal government has no constitutional authority to forbid the states their right to defend the unborn, nor does the federal government have the authority to force “gay rights” onto our institutions, schools, churches, businesses, institutions, organizations or onto our society.

The federal government has no constitutional authority to support or subsidize or do the bidding of special interest groups like ACORN, the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, LBGT, NARAL, or any other group—liberal or conservative. The federal government has no constitutional authority to ban or have any say whatsoever regarding prayer in school, public prayer, religious displays, etc, whether public, private or even local or state government.

“The CONGRESS shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”

And the fourteenth amendment has no say in the matter!

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

The only real reason or need for so-called Right to Life or Defense of Marriage amendments would be to keep the federal government from unconstitutionally intruding on societal issues. Our moral society does not want legalized abortion or gay marriage. They’re being forced on us by corrupt liberal activist judges and unconstitutional acts.

Keep the feds OUT!!


146 posted on 12/06/2011 2:53:50 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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