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To: magritte
The very fact that he even SPOKE to LaRaza makes the illegal-haters foam at the mouth. They don’t care about what Perry actually said. All they have is vitriol.

Right. It's like talking to a meeting of the Muslim Brotherhood without telling them that they are WRONG. Did Perry tell La Razza that they were wrong to be a racist organization, that they were dead wrong to believe in Reconquista? No because he was pandering, plain and simple.Your spin is like saying there are a lot of Democrats in Texas so you have to pander to them. I guess maybe that is true if getting elected is all that matters. In that respect Perry would fit right in with Romney and Gingrich.

36 posted on 12/04/2011 10:55:04 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton

I guess you didn’t listen to the speech.

Post #30.


39 posted on 12/04/2011 11:11:01 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Prokopton

How stupid would a politician be to be invited to an event to speak and call them racists? You go, you speak your piece and make your points just like Perry did. That’s how you try to make a REAL difference, not just make debate society points on anonymous websites. Read the text of his speech. It’s damned good.

Oh, and guess what. Getting elected is pretty damned important. Surprisingly, that’s the only place you can get much done in politics.


42 posted on 12/04/2011 11:39:22 AM PST by magritte
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To: Prokopton

Your getting your LaRaza groups mixed up.

The one Perry talked to does not believe in Reconquista.

You are referring to Raza Unida which has nothing to do with NCLR.

Here are some facts and you can research to find out for yourself at the NCLR website: http://www.nclr.org/index.php/about_us/faqs/the_truth_about_nclr/other_issues/

Some critics mistakenly assert that activist Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez was a founder of NCLR.

In fact, while Gutierrez was a key player in a number of Mexican American organizations, including the Mexican American Youth Organization (MAYO), the Brown Berets, and the Raza Unida Political Party, he never had any connection to NCLR.

Indeed Jose Angel Gutierrez himself has articulated a clear distinction between himself and his allies and NCLR, an organization he criticizes as being “cautious and careful.”


http://www.nclr.org/index.php/about_us/faqs/the_truth_about_nclr/reconquista_and_segregation/

misconception about NCLR is the allegation that we support a “Reconquista,” or the right of Mexico to reclaim land in the southwestern United States.

NCLR has not made and does not make any such claim; indeed, such a claim is so far outside of the mainstream of the Latino community that we find it incredible that our critics raise it as an issue.

NCLR has never supported and does not endorse the notion of a “Reconquista” or “Aztlán.” Similarly, NCLR’s critics falsely claim that the statement “Por La Raza todo, Fuera de La Raza nada,” [“For the community everything, outside the community nothing”] is NCLR’s motto.

NCLR unequivocally rejects this statement.


People, please do not be deceived.

Many of the people putting out this deceptive, lying and misinformation are not Republicans.

Don’t fall for it - find out the truth yourself.

Perry is a Conservative Republican.
He is Pro-Life
He is Pro-2nd Amendment

He will secure the border. He is against Anchor Baby Law.
He is against Amnesty.

Please quit believing the lies.

Perry is the most conservative candidate running.
The one with the most experience, the one with less baggage, the one who has a good marriage to one women and the one who is the strongest on illegal immigration.


57 posted on 12/04/2011 4:20:40 PM PST by TexMom7
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To: Prokopton

No, Rick was right to speak to the group.

Naturally he spoke some pleasantries.

And, no, he didn’t take his rifle and pick off a few of them at random.

He explained to them what was right and what was wrong.

You have no idea what he said to them, that’s obvious.


66 posted on 12/04/2011 7:04:50 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Prokopton

Well, prop, if you’ve moved to Newt, he has made more favorable statements about illegals than Perry ever has.

But you know that, don’t you.

Unless you think making them legal differs greatly from making them citizens.

But maybe you’re not for Newt either.


80 posted on 12/04/2011 7:58:02 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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