sounds something like this?
Posted on 12/01/2011 10:01:50 AM PST by rxsid
No, still not born in the USA....
Hey, it works. The audacity of the courts in some cases is astounding, too. Pure, raw, unadulterated power and baloney. Leo's been around enough to know to check the source material, especially when the quote seems "off" for some reason.
The government lies, pure and simple. It is not an honest critter. I give it respect the same reason I'd give the Godfather respect - he'll kill you otherwise.
Thats not true. The birth certificate should never have been the issue because the fact that his father was not a US Citizen is all that is needed to show he was not a Natural Born Citizen. If born in Hawaii though, which I personally have no issues with, he is merely a native born citizen, but not natural born.
If anything, the birth certificate proved that he was ineligible because it establishes who is father was, a known and accepted non-citizen.
Bump.
I've been doing this for the last couple of years. It took a long time, but we finally got people to focus on Minor and the affirmation of Minor in the Wong Kim Ark decision. If this stuff in the Maskell memo was as represented, some Obot like Dr. Stupidity would have found it a long time ago.
Yeah, that was my point. The B.C. was effectively irrelevant — the “natural born” point was ignored.
Just wanted to add to my comment about Obama’s mama possibly having an American or African-American lover who might have been the father instead of Barak Sr. Maybe there needs to an FOIA request for the passport records of Frank Marshall Davis or Malcolm X.
What are they afraid of right now?
http://www.obamaballotchallenge.com
Go and see for yourself. The intention is to challenge the eligibility of Obama in ALL states. There are records of people being removed from ballots and/or rejected from running for office due to their NOT being natural born citizens.
That, my dears, is why the obots have been out in force on Free Republic and why folks like Jack Maskell are working overtime on propoganda.
"The Supreme Court in Minor v. Happersett, in ruling in 1875 that women did not have the constitutional right to vote in federal or state elections (as a privilege or immunity of citizenship), raised and discussed the question in dicta as to whether one would be a “natural born” citizen if born to only one citizen-parent or to no citizen-parents, noting specifically that “some authorities” hold so. The Court, however, expressly declined to rule on that subject in this particular case."
From the actual text of the ruling:
"These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens. The words "all children" are certainly as comprehensive, when used in this connection, as "all persons," and if females are included in the last, they must be in the first. That they are included in the last is not denied. In fact, the whole argument of the plaintiffs proceeds upon that idea."
This is beyond 'out of context'. This is fraud. Pure, simple fraud.
"Some authorities..." is purely a reference to the concept children born within the jurisdiction as citizens i.e. 14th Amendment anchor babies. It is in no way a reference to any doubt or concerns about the status of children of citizens born in the jurisdiction. So Maskell's paragraph above is pure fraud. He is lying to Congress and to us as the American People. (with a capital P).
If it comes out that he was in fact born someplace other than Hawaii, Barry Soetoro is toast. (Of course I thought Bill Clinton was toast when the blue dress surfaced so Ii don't have a perfect track record...)
“Maskell’s paragraph...is pure fraud. He is lying to Congress and to us as the American People. (with a capital P).”
Gray Bar Hotel time for Maskell. Purposefully lying and misdirecting the U.S. Congress is a Federal felony.
I'm pinging a few who may be able to help you out.
What information are you specifically looking for?
I was born in Hawaii and have my long and short forms. The Certificates are numbered in the order they hit the main HDOH office in Honolulu. Only in that office are they given the File numbers. Paperwork to the main office can come from hospitals, as well as satellite offices from other places on Oahu, as well as the other islands. Certificates from the same origination point would have numbers all close together. Obama’s number being out of order between time of birth and the date it got it’s filing number means that the twins birth certificates (From the hospital) got to the main office at a different time than Barry’s did.
sounds something like this?
They’re still trying to conflate “citizen” with “natural born citizen” and hoping people won’t notice the difference.
Hey Jay Leno, here’s something for you to try in your “Jaywalking” skit:
“What’s the difference between a citizen and a natural born citizen?”
Remember, this is the Congressional Research Service, our employees!
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*snip*
Having been born in the US of parents who were citizens, petitioner was indeed a natural-born citizen. But Maskell’s frightening quotation surgery makes it appear as if the petitioner was born of alien parents. The Supreme Court rejected that contention. And Maskell’s ruse highlights the depravity of lies being shoved down the nation’s throat on this issue. I can imagine Mini-Me sitting on his lap while this was being prepared.
When you look carefully at Maskell’s creative use of quotation marks, you’ll see that the statement is NOT a quote from the case, but rather a Frankenstein inspired patchwork. He starts the reversed vivisection off with the following:
*snip*
LOOMING CONSTITUTIONAL DISASTERS
The timing of the memo’s appearance is alarming.
I have been saying for quite awhile now that Obama doesn’t really have to worry about the natural-born issue coming back to haunt him in court unless he attempts to suspend the Constitution. I know that sounds paranoid. And nothing would please me more than to be wrong on that prophecy.
If my fears don’t come to pass, I will gladly wear the tin foil hat of shame. But the appearance of the updated CRS memo at this particular moment portends a Constitutional disaster.
If Obama attempts to suspend the US Constitution and/or declare martial law and/or suspend the 2012 election… chances of the natural-born citizen issue finding its way to the Supreme Court on the merits increase exponentially.
Rest
If the records were sealed and the child never knew they were supposed to have allegiance to the Russian government, the child wouldn’t have a sense of allegiance to what he/she never knew. Of course, if the records became unsealed, the person might then have dual loyalty and be conflicted, so the very act of finding out the true birth circumstances could change the equation.
One thing I learned from that NH hearing was that the lawyers didn’t have to take an oath. It was said that lawyers are basically always held to the standards of being under oath. (I just about choked when I heard that).
Maskell had to have known that he was butchering the text. Surely that must be an ethics breach, no?
Well, I am looking for a article/story/blog post written in the past - four months - or since obama’s LFBC was sprung on us.
It was different than the (April 2011) WND article that had the Bennett 1955 HI Med Journal article, but similar.
The thing I am looking for had a snip of a newspaper/Journal article at the end, which stated specifically how the birth certificates were assigned their certificate numbers. My recollection was that it was purported to be from a HI newspaper article circa 1960 or 1961.
I believe it supports what you said, but being from a period publication would provide the proof that the person I am trying to help really MUST have to get past a roadblock.
I don’t usually appeal to others to help me, but this is a very unique and special circumstance.
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