[af_vet_rr]

I’ve seen a couple of people push this idea of civil war, but when pressed, they never seem to come up with just which states would secede or how it would play out or whether or not they’d be willing to kill their fellow Americans with a (D) next to their name. Sorry, just not seeing it. Some people claimed a civil war would happen if Obama was elected in 2008, didn’t happen. Not believing it now.

[MrEdd]

I don't see secession as a trigger, and never have.

I see a currency collapse, and an attempt to disarm the citizenry.