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To: jmaroneps37

I’ve read Section 1031, and it specificaly defines “covered persons” as 9/11 planners/helpers and members/supporters of Al Quaeda/Taliban “and associated entities”.

This is really overreacting. Yes, I understand the “nose under the tent” argument, but this ain’t it.

Colonel, USAFR


3 posted on 11/28/2011 7:49:48 AM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: jagusafr

I don’t believe the Constitution has a “people you really really don’t like at all” exemption for the rights therein.


6 posted on 11/28/2011 7:53:10 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: jagusafr

The wording is muddy and deliberately vague.


10 posted on 11/28/2011 7:56:58 AM PST by DManA
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To: jagusafr
This is prima facie unconstitutional and therefore cannot become binding law.

Though this is true, it is quite possible, considering the corruption of the court system as Western decadence has afflicted the United States, that corrupt courts will uphold this and render it de facto binding though illegal.

14 posted on 11/28/2011 8:01:51 AM PST by Savage Beast (“History is not just cruel. It is witty.” -Charles Krauthammer)
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To: jagusafr

Exactly what threat are we facing that can’t be met by current law?


15 posted on 11/28/2011 8:03:32 AM PST by DManA
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To: jagusafr

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Now, now don’t put any factual blockades before this firestorm of indignation...

That said, I don’t see any benefit to this law.
I think they were trying to make the law clearer for the military personnel- and this doedn;t do that IMO.
They should wait until the issues have been further explored in the courts.


17 posted on 11/28/2011 8:05:56 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: jagusafr

Can you define ‘associated entities’?


18 posted on 11/28/2011 8:07:58 AM PST by 556x45
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To: jagusafr
it specificaly defines “covered persons” as 9/11 planners/helpers and members/supporters of Al Quaeda/Taliban “and associated entities”.

Who exactly gets to 'define' said 'covered persons'? By oath or affirmation of any Elected Official? Any LEO? Who exactly? Is that defined in section 1031?

19 posted on 11/28/2011 8:10:06 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because you're jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you're hungry.)
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To: jagusafr

Read this one:

The US Senate is About to Declare War on Freedom and the American People
http://lonestarwatchdog.blogspot.com/2011/11/i-see-us-senate-is-about-to-declare-war.html


22 posted on 11/28/2011 8:20:43 AM PST by Never A Dull Moment
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To: jagusafr

I agree. Seems like this law is simply affirming the law that currently exists. It also sends a message to Obama and liberal judges to not over-step their powers.


26 posted on 11/28/2011 8:27:49 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: jagusafr

The problem is that anyone could be picked up as an “associated entity”, no questions asked. This one could be a problem.


34 posted on 11/28/2011 9:00:49 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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