To: Starman417
This is why the GOP is called "the stupid party."
2 posted on
11/25/2011 1:18:48 PM PST by
Travis McGee
(www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
To: Starman417
Here's how it'll go.
First it'll be: Secure the border first, then amnesty for those here a long time.
Then it'll be amnesty for those here a long time first, then secure the border. What the heck. You gonna quibble about a detail?
Then the Republicans will sign off on it.
Then it'll be "let's back-burner that 'secure the border' stuff, we need the money to buy votes so we can stay in office."
3 posted on
11/25/2011 1:23:13 PM PST by
Steely Tom
(Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
To: Starman417
Maybe the Republican Party thinks it can win without conservative votes?
Does anyone think they will secure the border, ever??
4 posted on
11/25/2011 1:23:18 PM PST by
GeronL
(The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
To: Starman417
Newt's control-the-border-first statement shows he understands the problem, but does he understand the solution? If you understand the problem, you have 90% of the solution.
Newt is prudent to separate his plan from the open-borders Bush-McCain "comprehensive bills."
See you at the bill signing, Dubya. Smug elitist punk.
To: Starman417
Newt's control-the-border-first statement shows he understands the problem, but does he understand the solution?[snip] If Newt wants to keep from terrifying his would-be supporters, he needs to be specific that by comprehensive reform he does not mean a comprehensive bill, but a comprehensive approach that enacts and achieves border security before any amnesty legislation is considered.Oh, Newt understands the problem, all right. As long as you define the problem as NOT solving illegal immigration, but selling amnesty as something other than amnesty.
Hence his coining the term 'path to non-deportation'.
Just that phrase alone shows he has no desire to approach this honestly. He joins McCain in pretending that his amnesty isn't. Yet I am supposed to trust him that he would not sign an amnesty by emulating Obama and Napolitano in declaring the border to be secure when it is not.
11 posted on
11/25/2011 1:41:07 PM PST by
dirtboy
To: Starman417
Unfortunately, for Newt, he has a record and that record has long been pro-amnesty from voting for amnesty in 1986 to working with pro-illegal people like Grover Norquist and Linda Chavez to promote schemes aimed at increasing the number of migrant workers and to promote amnesty/non law enforcement.
14 posted on
11/25/2011 1:50:42 PM PST by
bwc2221
To: Starman417
As part of border control we all get a shiny new, hi-tech SS card that goes PING!
23 posted on
11/25/2011 2:58:52 PM PST by
WilliamofCarmichael
(If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
To: Starman417
Secure the border. That should be a separate subject altogether, not tied in with immigration. Secure the border. It's a different subject. At the same time start imprisoning CEOs and personnel managers and fining housewives who hire illegals in any capacity. Then have an open southern border for southbound traffic. It will get heavy. You don't have to deport the illegals, just make it very difficult for them to make a living. Cut off by law all government benefits to the illegals. Actually all government benefits to anyone should be cut off. That would help fix the illegals problem and the economy, too.
27 posted on
11/25/2011 3:33:47 PM PST by
arthurus
(Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
To: Starman417; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
Ping!
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28 posted on
11/25/2011 3:45:12 PM PST by
HiJinx
(I can see Mexico from my back porch...)
To: Starman417
The EASY question to ask Newt is why is he even talking about Step 2?
Step 1 is securing the border. Step 2, if Newt actually wanted the nomination, would be to say something like “we’ll deal with that when we get there”.
If he had done something this simple, he would still have his huge leads in key states...
31 posted on
11/25/2011 5:13:57 PM PST by
BobL
(Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
To: Starman417
I've lived on the border for 25 years, I understand the problem, and the solution.
Clamp down hard on employers who hire illegals.
Round the illegals up, and send them home, all of them, no exceptions.
No matter how long they have been here, and how good they've been. They broke the law coming here, they've been breaking othher laws while working here.
I've heard over, and over that we can't afford to round them all up, we don't have to round them all up. Start rounding them up, and there will be a self deportation that will create a vacuum.
Then continue to deport the few that cross, Problem solved.
32 posted on
11/25/2011 10:11:03 PM PST by
c-b 1
(Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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