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To: Moonman62
I like how he went from a pre-prototype in January, to a different design which is box shaped (I think those are a better design though) to having a production box that was tested and approved by the folks who test to make sure this thing conforms to the relevant regs.

I've been saying that if this is real, it's going to be a nightmare to get it certified for sale in the U.S, yet he will have that done within twelve months. This also means that he's fixed all the problems from his Oct 1MW demo that forced it to run at half power. Didn't he just get NI to design and provide electronic controls? Don't tell me they can use off the shelf parts, I'm sure they will but it will have to be customized, software written and tested and so on.

Bottom line, no way, even if it does what he says it does, that a production E-cat will be in anyone's home within twenty four months, I've even given him extra time.

Supposedly, this is Defkalion's Hyperion (they're name for E-Cat, production device): It looks awfully like one of Rossi's older type E-Cats so you know this will end up in court. I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm on Rossi's side on this even though we don't really know the deal they had, the falling out and whether Defkalion is even real because if you go to:
Defkalion's announcement. The lab pictures are closely cropped like they're trying to make it look like they have several labs, which they may actually have. We'll see since they're supposed to have an announcement soon.

Of course I still think he's setting the hook, then it's time to real them in. He's gonna need a net to get the number of folks here in the Amen chorus.

Look at the uncritical coverage he gets from Mats Lewan of Nyteknik.se who should know better as he has a real degree, Master of Science in Engineering Physics.

I'm seriously worried for the mental health of people who have so much tied up in this thing being real. Rossi has created something better than an E-Cat, he's created a great Rorschach test.

Just look at how people leap to his defense when they're confronted with things about Rossi, the degree, the factory that was heated by an E-Cat for over two years (keep in mind what the E-Cat pre-prototype looked like in January) that burned down, the TE devices that didn't have the promised appx. 20% efficiency work when tested by a third party and then that factory burned down and the TEs he did send to be tested had an enormous failure rate and typical efficiencies; what, he didn't document his process and have that backed up? The self destruct mechanism, seriously, is this, Mission Impossible?

The apartment complex address for his companies, the PetrolDragon affair, the gold, the way he villain-izes his critics like Steve Krivit, his association with Sterling Allen. The test on the before and after reactants that had no chain of custody, they were just handed them by Rossi to be tested.

Contradiction after contradiction and it's all hand-waived away.

The worse part is I have a perfect use and place for this thing, it would fit perfect in the basement (we have one of the few houses in CA that have one even though it's tiny) and hopefully could keep the propane and propane accessories cost down. I don't know if Rossi is planning on selling a heat exchanger that would go where our house heating systems propane burners are but if so, that would mean I could use an E-Cat as a water heater and a house heater that would be supplemented by the current propane heater.

Then most of our propane usage would be for the cook-top and oven. It would pay for itself in under two years, but alas, not gonna happen.

I swear, Dennis Lee, Joseph Newman and other cranks have to be jealous of Rossi but at least Rossi's tests are better than the road shows of those two which is not much of a complement if you see their websites:

Joseph Newman's very professional site

Dennis Lee selling religion and free energy, seems rather blasphemous. They'll only take money from Christians so they say.

If you watch his video, watch how his assistant slyly moves the magnets back and forth demonstrating a magnetic motor at around 14-15 minutes in the video. His original company was Better World Technologies.

78 posted on 11/23/2011 5:00:15 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx
Oops typo:
(they're name for E-Cat, production device):
Should read: (their name for E-Cat, production device):
79 posted on 11/23/2011 5:02:52 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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