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To: count-your-change

hey count...

I never said I was an expert in low temperature low radiation low energy nuclear reactions - I did say and have said consistently:

1) Those who pontificate about Rossi not showing his cards, not offer his work to peer review, or not have experts witness test - know nothing about Trade Secrets and Intellectual Property and are not familiar how businesses, not academics, deal with the same. I stated repeatedly that he would be a bigger fool than you accuse him of being for showing anything to anyone not bound to confidentiality. For you or others to claim otherwise demonstrates to anyone dealing itn IP that you are clueless.

2) to those who say that there is no science behind his work and that it is magic - that you obviously did not look at SPAWARs videos, read Stremmous, Smiley or the host of other who have been doing work which parallels, or corroborates in part Rossi’s very limited disclosures.

3) Rossi has ante’d up with his own money, invested in prototypes, and has prepared a US patent application - he’s got lots of skin in the game - all you critics have ZIP, ZILCH, NADA, NOTHING in the game other than talk and talk is cheap just like uninformed opinions.

4) There are several site like http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/ that has lots of real experts discussing the various aspects of Rossi’s claims such as the much corroborated transmutation of Nickel into Copper with discussion here: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=473

5) the funniest thing is you are trying to disprove that which has not been disclosed by Rossi - which makes you a joke.

Lurking’


67 posted on 11/23/2011 12:10:21 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: LurkingSince'98
Lurk, Lurk, You send a link to Rossi’s vanity “journal” and suggest I won't be able to understand it:

“Hydrogen/Nickel cold fusion probable mechanism look here: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=338&cpage

Since you probably won’t understand it - you’ll likely dismiss it as magic.”

One need not be an expert in anything to examine claims made against what is known. And it appears that you're saying what you can't understand others can't either.

The reason I pulled that part out is that it is the salient part of the article, the rest being window dressing to it.

So please, save the comments about the videos, papers, blogs and such that others haven't read when if you had read them you probably wouldn’t understand them as you've made obvious.

68 posted on 11/23/2011 1:34:14 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: LurkingSince'98

I stated repeatedly that he would be a bigger fool than you accuse him of being for showing anything to anyone not bound to confidentiality. For you or others to claim otherwise demonstrates to anyone dealing itn IP that you are clueless.

This would make sense except for the fact that Rossi has been holding a dog & pony show every month for a year.
to those who say that there is no science behind his work and that it is magic - that you obviously did not look at SPAWARs videos, read Stremmous, Smiley or the host of other who have been doing work which parallels, or corroborates in part Rossi’s very limited disclosures.
Just because there is legitimate science going on doesn't mean that Rossi is doing science. In fact, he obviously isn't doing science. Science relies on independent replication of results to exclude the possibility of fraud, and Rossi has steadfastly refused to allow that.
Rossi has ante’d up with his own money, invested in prototypes, and has prepared a US patent application
Rossi's patent application is a good example of his misdirection. It's not a patent application for a "cold fusion reactor" or anything of the sort. It's a patent application for an completely ordinary electric water heater. You can't patent something unless you include a complete technical description of it in the application, and Rossi's application contains nothing relevant. So, even if the Patent Office screws up and accepts his patent, it doesn't provide any protection for what he's claiming to try to protect.

All Rossi's patent does is impress people who don't understand patents.

I do question, however, why Rossi suddenly decided that it was OK to start offering to sell his gadget to people all over the world, even though he certainly doesn't have any legal protection for it. What's changed since the end of October?
There are several site like http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/
Ah, Rossi's blog, which pretends to be a scientific journal.
such as the much corroborated transmutation of Nickel into Copper with discussion here: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=473
Funny you should mention that. HERE, HERE and HERE is a thread where I took apart that particular argument. The "before" and "after" samples that Rossi provided actually contradict all of Rossi's claims about what is actually going on in his E-Cat.

In the paper you reference, Bettini claims that it's 58Nickel that is transmuted into 59Copper. But this would leave a lower than normal amount of 58Nickel and an excess of 59Coppern in the resulting "ash". However, the analysis of the sample showed no such thing.

In other places, Rossi has claimed that he's transmuting 62Nickel and 64Nickel into Copper, but there isn't enough of those isotopes (less than 5%) to create the amount of Copper claimed by Rossi (30%). If Rossi were really converting all the 62Nickel and 64Nickel into Copper, there wouldn't be any of those particular isotopes left. But the analysis showed the normal amounts of each.

Finally, if Rossi (as he has claimed) "enhance" specific isotopes of an element without massive industrial processes, for pennies a gram and in kilogram quantities (as he must if he can sell a six-month "fuel supply" for $10 - $20), then that is a much more important breakthrough than his E-Cat. The medical uses of such a process would be worth billions. And yet, Rossi is using it to make tea kettles. That's a little bit like Thomas Edison developing the light bulb, and then only using it in Easy-Bake Ovens.

Sorry to "harsh your buzz", but you really don't know what you're talking about.

69 posted on 11/23/2011 1:57:49 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: LurkingSince'98
The cartoon of the masked proton has convinced me.


70 posted on 11/23/2011 2:12:01 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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