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The Cold Fusion Ping List

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles -------------------------------------------------------------- http://ecatnews.com/?p=1144

Unfortunately, if Rossi did the following:

1) hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be the customer reps,

2) created an elaborate year-long special-effects-derived series of demos,

3) bribed, hypnotised or otherwise fooled Focardi, Levi, Kullander, Essen, Bianchini, Stremmenos

4) arranged for Piantelli, Miley and a host of others to try to fool the world into thinking that cold fusion was real,

5) got NASA, SPAWAR, The Defense Threat Reduction Agency and The Defense Intelligence Agency to say nice things about the field,

6) got Bushnell to make a fool of himself,

7) and convinced his former partners to set up another company called Ampenergo to pretend that they had a contract for The Americas for a substantial sum ----- or that they just did this with no proof because they have worked with Rossi and trust him because he’s such a fine fellow,

8) sold his profitable company to his ex-partners in order to spend that wealth on a multi-million dollar scam; ----- certain that once he got all the above ducks in a row he would pretend to sell the first device ----- and then reel in the true target of his dastardly plan

9) and convinced a bunch of Greek crooks to set up a dummy company called Defkalion ----- to pretend to fight with him over the non-existent eCat, ----- to perpetuate the illusion and spin it off into a competing mirror-scam

[the second (this time genuine) buyer of a 1MW plant that will net him $2 million dollars ----- until they want their money back or sucker a $100 million dollar deal under the table ----- because he has experience in pulling the wool over all these idiotic eyes ----- and knows that they will just take his word for it ----- and not want to test if his 1MW plant can heat a small village without truckloads of coal or oil or a big fat electric cable coming into the container from beneath the floor (no you can’t lift the carpet!) ]

10) and that, in order to pull this off, Rossi had to risk discovery by interviewing all the people he subsequently fooled so that he could only invite the gullible Professors and not the brilliant anonymous posters on the Internet who surely would have found him out

then, yes, all bets are off and I’m with the guys who think that Rossi is an idiot and they are all geniuses.

1 posted on 11/18/2011 9:04:44 PM PST by Kevmo
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2 posted on 11/18/2011 9:05:39 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Kevmo

It’s still voodoo until it’s been reverse engineered.


4 posted on 11/18/2011 9:11:49 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: Kevmo

It is all about fraud.


5 posted on 11/18/2011 9:28:09 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Kevmo
Yet another company formed just to hype Rossi's gadget, with nothing more than a web site and a mail drop (actually, they don't even have a mail drop). But they do have an "Investor Relations" link!

I find it interesting that the only company that has any existence prior to "signing up" with Rossi is the German company that is currently "selling" perpetual motion machines.

If Rossi's gadget actually worked, his partners would be companies like G.E. or Westinghouse (or maybe Google).

15 posted on 11/19/2011 2:08:30 AM PST by Johnny B.
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How interesting, that after all this time, the discussion is STILL focussed on trying to convince people that Rossi’s device is legitimate.

The PCR technique has revolutionized the biological sciences. Yet, I don’t remember that Kary Mullis spent inordinate amounts of time giving unconvincing demonstrations of his technique, attempting to convince people that PCR is real, and to buy his PCR machines.

Could the big difference here be that Kary Mullis actually had strong scientific evidence, repeatable by anyone with access to lab supplies and equipment—while Rossi has yet to offer ANY scientific evidence, and carefully protects any details that might allow independent verification of his process?

Hmm.

P.S. For the benefit of non-biologists, Kary Mullis won the Nobel Prize for inventing PCR, which is used by life scientists and in clinical laboratories worldwide.


16 posted on 11/19/2011 5:47:38 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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Color me impressed. Hydrofusion is involved now, seriously, hydrofusion? How many people do they employ in England alone let alone globally?

I looked and I found that they employ an incredible amount of people.

From my admittedly hasty research, I've found out how many people they employ:


FOUR


I do hope I'm wrong. I hope this is a genuine business to distribute and install the ECAT and until now, never really had a need for a web presence. However, unless my data is wrong, this appears to be nothing more than another shell company. Someone, prove me wrong?

Here's their website:
Hydrofusion

Here's where they say they are opening a new branch:
New Office!
If they really are building a site in Sweden, or as they say, Opening a New Branch then they think they've got something. Does Sweden allow lay people to access permits, architectural drawings as well as the engineering/architecture drawings from the firm they are going to use? Does Hydrofusion have other branches and where are they located?

They are also using a quote from Tesla. Is it possible to have an appeal to authority beyond the grave..?

It also appears that they thought long and hard about the content to put on their website and besides the pages that canonize Rossi, there's pretty much nothing there. I like this minimalist approach, it's very clean. Dr. Judy Wood could learn a thing or two,

Observe what a ten year old with a copy of Front Page can do:

Dr. Wood

I apologize for that, your eyes will return to normal in a few minutes.
Please note: Dr. Judy Woods has nothing, no relation to Rossi that I'm aware of. I use her site to show what, in my opinion, is one of the busiest (not traffic, content) and worse looking site around. The Hydrofusion site is a Rembrandt compared to her site.

It also appears, in typical Rossi fashion, he piggybacks on the name of a successful company or technology. Now it won't solve the unemployment strategy but it's a start.

Kevmo, you never responded to this post, granted it was only pinged to WW:

Fusion Thread

What, no comment, no aves references?

We are getting near the point where we learn whether:
1) Rossi has literally changed the world forever and for good. I'd put that on my C.V. if I were him
2) Rossi has had good intentions but was blinded by test bias where he saw what he was looking for.
3) Rossi deliberately set out to scam people.

While I believe #3 is the answer, to carry out a scam of this magnitude would be as amazing as a working Ecat.

 

I'm sure when all this settles out, there will be a book about it.

20 posted on 11/19/2011 11:52:27 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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NyT: What is your contract with Andrea Rossi?

Holm: “I can’t go into details yet”“.

That's OK. The details will come out during the trial.

34 posted on 11/20/2011 9:24:22 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kevmo
Just more of Kevmo's blog postings he's trying to pass off as news.


97 posted on 11/26/2011 12:58:16 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Kevmo

The first worm of this kind appears to have been launched Tuesday morning by Magnus Holm, a Norwegian Ruby programmer who uses the Twitter handle @judofyr. His post contained only a link, which had the embedded command “onmouseover,” a JavaScript command that caused the link to be automatically Tweeted by anyone whose mouse cursor touched it. In an e-mail, Mr. Holm said he created the worm “because I wanted to experiment with the flaw,” which he says was already being exploited by others. “The purpose was simply to see if it was possible to create a worm.”

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/21/twitter-hacked-tuesday-morning/


98 posted on 11/26/2011 1:01:08 PM PST by bvw
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