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To: Wonder Warthog
I do "understand this stuff". I was making and measuring radioisotopes (probably) before you were out of diapers.
SCORE=For an Adult, Lame, keep in mind, it's my mistake that I assumed you were an adult! We're going to need a parent teacher conference for Wonder Weinerdog
We also would have accepted, before you were even a gleam in your mother's eyes.

So there! and your adopted momma wears combat boots! Too funny, I feel like I'm an elementary school, my highest level of learning achieved.

 

So, you need a heart transplant, right before they put you out, you find out your Doctor's degree is fraudulent, do you continue on?

On these elements being tested, are we sure the nickel he submitted is what he puts in his device? Are we sure the second elements are from a reactor that was running or even near one of his reactors.

Don't tell me he had two boxes, one marked before and the other marked after that he had assayed?

And, if he did, people bought this? Please tell me there is a clear chain of evidence here.

So far, none of the Rossi fanboys have any response to the factory he said he had in Ferrara that he used his old design Ecat to heat this factory for a year, where's that Ecat??? Since Ecats shown early this year are the L shaped ones like in his patent, why isn't he showing it off; if a tiny piece of equipment can heat his factory, imagine what the new and improved Ecat can do? What did this factory produce anyway, that is before it burned down? This seems to happen to him a lot. Didn't his factory in the states that was supposed to be producing super efficient TE devices burn?

The Ferrara Factory burned down.

Is it just me or do we have to pretty much depend on the honesty and integrity of Rossi (and his goombahs)as the sole sources of information?

At least Rossi has a new more trustworthy spokesman than Sterling Allan:

From: DOD Fuel Cell.

...Leonardo Technologies, Inc. LTI was incorporated as a response to the thermoelectric power generation research by Dr. Andre Rossi. Dr. Rossi indicated that his devices would produce 20 percent efficiencies, a vast increase from the current science of 4 percent conversion of waste heat to electrical power. Dr. Rossi believed that he could increase the physical size of the TE Devices and maintain superior power generation. In furtherance of his research, in early 2000, LTI, Rossi's company, not the military had tests conducted at the University of New Hampshire (UNH), Durham, NH, using a small scale LTI TE Device. Over a period of 7 days, the UNH power plant staff recorded voltage and amperage readings every 1/2 hr. The TE Device produced approximately 100 volts and 1 ampere of current, providing 100 watts of power. After this initial 6 ERDC/CERL TR-04-20 success, and a fire that destroyed his Manchester, NH location, Dr. Rossi returned to Italy to continue the manufacture of the TE Devices. In Italy, Dr. Rossi believed that LTI could manufacture more cost-effective TE generating devices with lower labor and assembly costs. Accordingly, Dr. Rossi engaged a subcontractor to fulfill the requirements of manufacturing and assembly.

The New Hampshire Factory Burned down

This is an excerpt from above:

LTI had tests conducted at the University of New Hampshire (UNH), Durham, NH, using a small scale LTI TE Device. Over a period of 7 days, the UNH power plant staff recorded voltage and amperage readings every 1/2 hr. The TE Device produced approximately 100 volts and 1 ampere of current, providing 100 watts of power.

In a, "Where Are They Now Vein", what happened to the 20% efficient TE devices Rossi created? Has he been able to make another?

Let's use Occams's Bic, what is more likely, Rossi created a TE that is 20% efficient compared to the normal 4% efficient ones.
OR,
Rossi gamed the test results in the college lab; keep in mind, LTI, Rossi's company was the one paying and supervising the tests, when the gov wanted to test them on their own equipment with their own scientists, a fire breaks out in Rossi's factory, (can you imagine what his fire insurance costs?).

Now,
1) either his devices worked which would be pretty impressive or
2) He somehow fudged the numbers and when interest got high and he realized he couldn't control the testing, poof, factory goes up in smoke. Now, normally, I'd be inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt BUT, are we supposed to believe:

1) The only working prototype was in that factory.
2) The design for that device was stored on a computer which went up in smoke.
3) He doesn't back up his systems and send data off site to a place like Iron Mountain? This means all his work, payroll records, permits filed, all contracts, they were all destroyed?
4) Rossi can't seem to now recall the secret that caused his TE device to have such high efficiency?
5) Where is his latest factory, does he have fire or arson insurance? So, on the TE device, if you look at the testing protocol it looks like it was designed by Rossi. We're in the 21st century, all he had to do to get a continuous flow of data was a few keystrokes and no, I seriously doubt it would fill up the hard drive. They have these things called networks now that allows you to put the monitoring laptop(s) on the network and be able to use almost unlimited storage.

Since this thing is supposed to be Nuclear, fission or fusion, either way, no one expects the NRC to do anything but use everything in their power to
A) shut it down, that's assuming the NRC is filled with Bama's fellow travelers who want us to live in the 18th century while they, our bettors, will manage what is good for us. Or
B) get their mits on this thing and create a regulation manual two feet high that has regulations that are impossible to meet? Assuming everything Rossi said is true, just getting past regulations in each country where one of these things is going to be put will take a generation, even with the right payoffs.

This is a good read:

New Energy times I

Again, we always hear about Rossi and his factories. Where are they, how many employees in each and what is he making?

I would love to see the state that other 'energy' promoters are in such as Dennis Lee and Joseph Newman, they must be so frustrated to see Rossi's scam work so well.

Finally, some information from respectable (mostly) journals:

New Energy Times I

Let's address some rumors:

There were reports that Rossi's mystery buyer were:

The U.S. Navy
SPAWAR
NI
According to these links, The U.S. Navy, SPAWAR or NI did not buy the plant: NI Statement via Forbes II.

University of Bologna Denies Faculty Involvement with Rossi

Here's an interesting quote from the, New Energy Time II  link.

...Sander Olson, a writer for Next Big Future, contacted me yesterday about the SPAWAR rumor.

“After having read your articles on E-CAT and receiving independent confirmation from SPAWAR that they are not taking possession of any device from Rossi,” Olson wrote, “I have decided that he is almost certainly a fraud and [I] will not pursue an interview. I always suspected that he was a fraud and I now find the evidence overwhelming. Thank you for providing assistance in this matter.”

Finally, Rossi does have a real degree: He earned a bachelor’s degree in 1973 in the philosophy of science and engineering from the University of Milan’s School of Philosophy.

247 posted on 11/18/2011 8:33:02 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx

fantastic! Great job pulling this all together in a well written reply!


250 posted on 11/18/2011 10:11:41 PM PST by dila813
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To: Lx; Kevmo; Wonder Warthog

Great post, Lx. Waiting for rebuttals from WW and Kevmo.


258 posted on 11/19/2011 3:26:18 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Lx
Don't tell me he had two boxes, one marked before and the other marked after that he had assayed?

And, if he did, people bought this? Please tell me there is a clear chain of evidence here.

No signs of any chain of evidence. The articles I've read simply state that Rossi supplied two samples, which he claimed were "before" and "after".

As I've pointed out several times, this is the only physical evidence related to the E-Cat, and it contradicts several claims by Rossi and his associates.

Rossi could have released the actual report, but chose not to do so. We have to assume that Rossi finds it beneficial to have rumors about an assay being done, without having to justify the results of that assay.

259 posted on 11/19/2011 3:34:42 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Lx

Ignore.


263 posted on 11/19/2011 5:55:05 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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