Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

To: Kevmo
***It’s more than a “little extra heat” but I can accept that it’s chemical in nature. No need for NRC oversight.
Are you calling Rossi a liar? Rossi claims that his E-Cat converts Nickel into Copper. No chemical process can do that.

In fact, the Nickel "fuel" and the Nickel/Copper/Iron "ash" is the only physical evidence that Rossi has presented regarding how the E-Cat supposedly works.

I have, more than once, presented a fairly detailed post explaining how those samples actually contradict Rossi's claim. Nobody has posted a serious rebuttal to it. I guess the Rossi fanboys don't want a serious discussion.

213 posted on 11/18/2011 3:17:40 AM PST by Johnny B.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 209 | View Replies ]


To: Johnny B.
"I have, more than once, presented a fairly detailed post explaining how those samples actually contradict Rossi's claim. Nobody has posted a serious rebuttal to it. I guess the Rossi fanboys don't want a serious discussion."

"It was reported that two Swedish scientists who participated in the October 6 testing of Energy Catalyzer, Professor Hanno Essén and Professor Sven Kullander have also tested the byproducts of the E-Cat. They report “elemental and isotopic analysis was performed on the samples utilizing both X-ray Fluorescence and Inductively Coupled Plasma Mass Spectrometry. The result was that the fresh nickel powder was almost totally pure nickel, but the nickel powder that had been in an E-Cat contained 10% copper and 11% iron. Two of the copper isotopes detected were Cu63 and Cu65”. Obviously, the above results are proof of a fusion reaction taking place in the E-Cat reactor! Now those tests need to be confirmed by others."

Maybe you oughta post that analysis again, because the above info seems to contradict it. Note that Rossi sent a BLANK SAMPLE along with the "used" material.

So, apparently, the DATA from the TWO samples shows that the E-Cat converts Ni to Cu and perhaps Fe. Now, maybe the isotopic analysis of the Cu and Fe don't differ from "natural abundance". but given that we have no clue as to the actual mechanism of the transformations, one CANNOT draw the conclusion from the isotope ratios that "it's a scam", when the elemental analysis plainly shows formation of Cu and Fe.

Well, one "can" draw that conclusion if one is a pathological skeptic. The correct approach is to reserve judgment and await clarifying data.

I note in passing that the info in bold comes directly from the people who did the analysis, and not a verbal quotation from someone else who "talked to them".

219 posted on 11/18/2011 5:19:46 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 213 | View Replies ]

To: Johnny B.

The sample he sent was found to be the wrong isotope of copper for a nuclear by product. It is common copper that comes from a copper mine and is smelted.


224 posted on 11/18/2011 6:59:55 AM PST by dila813
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 213 | View Replies ]

To: Johnny B.

No chemical process can do that.
***Prove it.

In fact, the Nickel “fuel” and the Nickel/Copper/Iron “ash” is the only physical evidence that Rossi has presented regarding how the E-Cat supposedly works.
***You seem to think that Rossi is interested in presenting physical evidence.

I have, more than once, presented a fairly detailed post explaining how those samples actually contradict Rossi’s claim. Nobody has posted a serious rebuttal to it. I guess the Rossi fanboys don’t want a serious discussion.
***As I’ve suggested in the past, it should be posted as its own thread. It gets lost in the weeds when it’s just one of the comments in a thread. If you’ve posted it more than once and there’s been no rebuttal, it has been lost to the noise.


241 posted on 11/18/2011 7:21:49 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 213 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson